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10:20 < kanzure> .title http://deepspec.org/events/ss17detail.html
10:20 < yoleaux> DeepSpec: The Science of Deep Specification
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17:09 < jeremyrubin> Does anyone know if there's been any prior art on the ideas of _virtual outputs_ or _intermediate outputs_? A virtual output is an output that is created in such a manner that it A) is zero valued B) is prunable (e.g., OP_RETUN) C) If the OP_RETUN prefix were removed, some input provides a witness of how such an output could be redeemed. A virtual output is an output which is marked to be required to be spent within the same block as
17:09 < jeremyrubin> Oops, I repeated virtual output; the latter is intermediate
17:12 < jeremyrubin> In a virtual output, it is safe to enable certain features (such as covenants) without worry of causing a fungibility issue, because the computation is guaranteed to terminate.
17:13 < jeremyrubin> (I beleive such a design is \Del_0 compatible)
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17:14 < jeremyrubin> (This is also somewhat true for intermediate outputs)
17:18 < jeremyrubin> I think that the above two could be useful in bitcoin as new opcodes which allow for much improved multi-transaction contract building.
17:19 < jeremyrubin> I think if it were a matter of one or the other, I'd prefer virtual to intermediate because it is less complicated to mine.
17:19 < jeremyrubin> But the code for mining Child-Pays-For-Parent already encapsulates similar logic I beleive.
17:22 < jeremyrubin> <br>
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17:23 < jeremyrubin> On another note, I'd be curious to hear if there is also prior art on inverted inputs; e.g. a proof that an input could not be created.
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17:24 < jeremyrubin> For instance, if I want to say that a pre-generated spend is only possible if another spend of coins has already occured, an inverted output could be used to force a "wait" condition.
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17:25 < jeremyrubin> These are already semi-possible in bitcoin without extension if the prograer explicityly adds an output that can be consumed after the spend desired to be monitored, but that doesn't generalize all too well (utxo/observer, observers must be created ahead of time)
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17:30 < jeremyrubin> These can also be made more general if showing that the existence of another input precludes the creation (via mutual ancestor) of another desired input.
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