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14:46 < bsm117532> When making Pedersen commitments using a prime field, do the factorization properties of the prime matter?
14:47 < bsm117532> For instance, using bitcoin's prime p, the value 4p+1 is also prime, and suitable for commitments to elliptic curve points.
14:49 < bsm117532> However it might not be considered a "safe" prime because r+1 = 4p+2 has a 133 bit prime factor.  I suspect this is only relevant if you're doing RSA with it...
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19:17 < gmaxwell> amiller: I left a comment on your monero deanon paper on HN, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14136022
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20:38 < amiller> gmaxwell: thanks
20:40 < amiller> all the main statistics in the monerolink paper, even the catchy teasers (62% of all transaction inputs), are explicitly about transactions that opt in to privacy by including 1 or more mixin
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20:43 < amiller> figure 1 is a high level illustration of the privacy mechanisms and baseline, not a statistic, i'm very sure you're making a rhetorical point and figure 1 isn't improved by doing what you suggest
20:49 < gmaxwell> amiller: It's not possible in monero (anymore) to not include multiple mixins.
20:49 < gmaxwell> (AFAIK)
20:50 < gmaxwell> amiller: It's not a rhetorical point, I earnestly think this is misleading and that perhaps your personal conflict of interest may be preventing you from seeing that.
20:51 < gmaxwell> I don't have anything to do with monero or zcash and I saw that and was really disappointed.
20:53 < amiller> i think what you're suggesting is clarifying in fig 1. that the illustration is of zcash 'shielded transactions' which are optional
20:53 < gmaxwell> amiller: yea, that would be good.
20:54 < gmaxwell> It's a fair point that in monero the combining of users who are not trying to get privacy with ones that are could hurt the ones that are; but in practice the anonymity set could still be much larger.
20:55 < amiller> seems fair, added to todo
20:58 < gmaxwell> Cool. thanks!
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