--- Log opened Thu May 18 00:00:57 2017 00:03 -!- espes___ [~espes@205.185.120.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:05 -!- espes__ [~espes@205.185.120.132] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@5.79.76.38] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@5.79.76.38] has quit [Changing host] 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@5.79.76.38] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@5.79.76.38] has quit [Changing host] 00:11 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:16 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:26 -!- jtimon [~quassel@117.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:47 < fluffypony> https://getmonero.org/2017/05/17/disclosure-of-a-major-bug-in-cryptonote-based-currencies.html 00:47 < fluffypony> thanks gmaxwell for the advice on how to responsibly handle disclosure of something that can be used to attack altcoins 00:47 < fluffypony> also this has been discovered in parallel recently by a Blockstream researcher 00:54 < gmaxwell> fluffypony: Glad to hear that it's announced now. 00:54 < gmaxwell> This was a quite intresting vulnerablity. 00:54 < fluffypony> yeah shows that X25519 isn't as well understood as people think 00:56 < gmaxwell> nickler: Any interest in writing about this bug for the modern crypto curves list? It makes for a nice demonstration point for the security implications of small subgroups. 01:02 < waxwing> oh it's a small subgroup thing. is the math written up anywhere? 01:06 < othe> https://moderncrypto.org/mail-archive/curves/2017/000846.html 01:09 < waxwing> othe: yes, thank you, i see it was actually linked there. 01:09 -!- jannes [~jannes@095-097-246-234.static.chello.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:17 -!- stevenroose [~steven@vps.weuste.club] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:24 -!- danesh [~danesh@103.234.100.248] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:29 -!- Dyaheon [~Dya@a91-156-192-24.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:30 -!- Dyaheon [~Dya@a91-156-192-39.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:37 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:38 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-84-27.netcologne.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:38 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-78-35-84-27.netcologne.de] has quit [Changing host] 01:38 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:51 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:55 -!- tromp [~tromp@ool-944bc443.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:15 -!- rmwb [~rmwb@199.178.233.220.static.exetel.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17 -!- kenshi84 [~kenshi84@p187130-ipngn2801akatuka.ibaraki.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18 < nickler> waxwing: remember verification of a traceable ringsig with size 1 looks like e == hash(m, s*G + e*P, s*hash(P) + e*I), where P is the pubkey and I is the key image which is supposed to be x*hash(P). Intuitively, it's very hard to create a signature for a different key image because the same `s` that is used to prove knowledge of the discrete logarithm `x` of `P` is also used for `I`. 02:18 < nickler> However, if you replace I by I' = I + L where L is a low order point, then you can grind e until e*I' = e*I + e*L = e*I and thus you'd be able to respend the same output with a different key image. 02:35 -!- harrymm [~wayne@45.56.152.28] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver2@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:51 -!- JackH [~laptop@85.219.170.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:57 -!- kenshi84 [~kenshi84@p187130-ipngn2801akatuka.ibaraki.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:15 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@104.192.2.226] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:17 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:18 -!- chjj [~chjj@unaffiliated/chjj] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:19 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Basically this for but looking inside p2sh https://gist.github.com/FelixWeis/db13c69e61b4cdefa437 19:46 < ryan-c> If not, I can do it myself, but i expect it to take a long time to run 19:58 -!- harrymm [~wayne@104.237.91.207] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09 -!- oleganza [~oleganza@c-73-170-224-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:14 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:19 -!- Noldorin [~noldorin@unaffiliated/noldorin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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