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01:14 < waxwing> andytoshi, last i checked there was some brief notes on scriptless scripts in a presentation, is that still the only thing there is in public or has something else been written?
01:16 < waxwing> ok no i'm dumb, the presentation notes from milan are specifically scriptless scripts
01:16 < waxwing> i was going to shorten that to "SS" but thought better of it
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05:39 < Muis> https://data.bitcoinity.org/
05:40 < Muis> Die 'Combined Orderbook' functie is wel leuk, zocht ik al lang!
05:42 < Muis> sorry, wrong channel! my bad
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06:14 < andytoshi> waxwing: lol, yeah, i've caught myself trying to write SS many times :) i should find another word to tack onto scriptless scripts to avoid that..
06:14 < andytoshi> but yes, the milan slides are entirely scriptless scripts, and that's the best writeup that's public
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06:23 < kanzure> andytoshi: you could do SLS (scriptless scripts)
06:24 < andytoshi> oh, nice, i like that
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06:28 < bsm117532> It just needs an Orion capsule...
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06:50 < fluffypony> SLS...like the Mercedes-Benz
06:54 < sipa> ?
06:55 < fluffypony> sipa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_SLS_AMG
06:55 < fluffypony> andytoshi: ^^
06:55 < fluffypony> logo ideas :-P
07:02 < bsm117532> https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/index.html
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08:12 < waxwing> heh, giacomo in his talk right now just used "SSSS" (schnorr signature scriptless scripts) :) i don't think he's here.
08:13 < waxwing> doesn't that conflict with shamir, hmm
08:18 < waxwing> darkscripts?
08:18 < kanzure> dankscripts
08:18 < kanzure> talk link plz?
08:18 < waxwing> heh
08:18 < waxwing> oh link i don't know it's the bitcoin meetup in odessa after the conference ("BIP") yesterday
08:18 < waxwing> i'll ask him when he's finished kanzure but it's probably not that interesting, just an overview of a lot of bitcoin stuff
08:19 < kanzure> odessa prime or odessa USA?
08:19 < waxwing> prime
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08:27 < andytoshi> lol, no "darkscripts", that will have a bad connotation in public. but lol @ giacomo
08:28 < kanzure> private scripts?
08:28 < waxwing> i was about to add the /s tag but kanzure 's dankscripts got me :)
08:30 < waxwing> they always sound like cheesy TV softcore movies, 'confidential assets' and so on :)
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08:47 < sipa> waxwing: /s ?
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08:49 < kanzure> sipa: /s is an internet sarcasm compatibility translation layer.
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08:50 < kanzure> without which, most forms of sarcasm are hard to transfer over the intertubes.
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13:41 < bsm117532> "private scripts"?
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13:43 < bsm117532> It does make sense to pay attention to "optics" here.  A friend of mine commented the other day, looking at the list of altcoins "the naming of these projects is complete shit".
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14:09 < fluffypony> bsm117532: I agree, and we're not doing ourselves any favours with TumbleBit, MimbleWimble, or Grin (no offence intended to all involved)
14:10 < fluffypony> but I'm not a product naming expert, so I don't know how we do better, and tbh worse names than Grin have caught on
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14:15 < kanzure> name everything by taking 20 bytes from /dev/urandom, problem solved.
14:16 < fluffypony> perfect
14:17 < fluffypony> looking forward to ?`?E?Gid?_?@?8?? ?ma????;?m?5@*???f??L???C?x:Hv?Kb0?@?Ja%??X!?I?"?m??????|?2;??.???Q[?????vv???3???q??Coin
14:20 < sipa> this seems like a perfect time to shamelessly plug https://github.com/sipa/gramtropy
14:21 < sipa> generates uniformly random strings chosen from a set described by an unambiguous context-free grammar
14:21 < fluffypony> nice
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14:28 < kanzure> ah yes, the name of the program should be a publickey, and the author should have the private key.
14:28 < kanzure> then the author signs the releases.
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