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06:19 < kanzure> .title https://lists.opentimestamps.org/pipermail/ots-dev/2017-July/000018.html
06:19 < yoleaux> [ots-dev] Should we drop the distinction between calendars and aggregators?
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08:02 < betawaffle> i've got a bitcoin script idea, and i'd like to know what's wrong with it, or if someone already had this idea:
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08:04 < betawaffle> is it possible (or is it a bad idea) to have a piece of script executed when A tries to send to B, where B is the one providing the script?
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08:05 < betawaffle> ie. let's say i only want you to send to my address before block X, after that, the spend is invalid
08:05 < betawaffle> imagine a merchant who generates a transient address for a specific payment, but doesn't want to receive anything extra after that 1 day window
08:06 < betawaffle> so they can safely forget the private key involved and not need to deal with refunding mistaken sends to them
08:07 < betawaffle> the somewhat obvious problem i think i can see with this is that the address would need to be long, correct?
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08:31 < andytoshi> no. this is not reorg-safe. you cannot do anything that causes previously valid transactions to become invalid, absent double-spends. also there is no need whatsoever for script to be involved with this, you can just as easily put a timestamp in the address and have clients understand it (or better, just use a payment protocol and forget about addresses or reuse)
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08:40 < betawaffle> andytoshi: thanks, that answers my question!
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13:37 < cluelessperson> I was wondering.  Are there any detailed network presentations on the pros/cons of both on chain scaling, and off chain scaling?
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13:40 < kanzure> cluelessperson: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin/scalingbitcoin-review.pdf
13:42 < cluelessperson> thank you.
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14:33 < JackH> amazing writeup and collection of info
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14:43 < betawaffle> yeah, i *really* loved that presentation
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16:38 < kanzure> "Concurrency and privacy with payment channel networks" https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/pmorenos/public/paychannels.pdf
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16:42 < kanzure> "Post-quantum zero-knowledge and signatures from symmetric-key primitives" https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/279 https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/279.pdf https://twitter.com/sgoldfed/status/892118261499920384 https://github.com/microsoft/picnic
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16:47 < kanzure> "Blockchain consensus protocols in the wild" https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.01873 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1707.01873
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16:52 < kanzure> an analysis of ripple- "a user base of around 50,000 wallets prone to disruption by as few as 10 highly connected wallets" https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.02358
16:52 < kanzure> tor + sgx https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi17/technical-sessions/presentation/kim-seongmin
16:53 < kanzure> "Quantum resource estimates for computing elliptic curve discrete logarithms" https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.06752 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1706.06752.pdf
16:55 < kanzure> "Using sphinx to improve onion routing circuit construction" https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/628 https://eprint.iacr.org/2009/628.pdf (2009)
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18:59 < kanzure> someone attempting to document types of security topics in bitcoin (page 8) https://arxiv.org/pdf/1706.00916.pdf
19:00 < kanzure> and privacy/anonymization proposals on page 21.
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19:19 < kanzure> "partially blind threshold signatures with uncertain signers"  hrm.
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23:40 < jonny1000> hi, is anyone running testnet nodes?  Someone reported to me that 0.14.1 wont follow the most work chain
23:41 < arubi> I'm on blocks": 1155835,
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23:42 < arubi> oh sorry, v0.14.2
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23:54 < molz> i just fired up v0.14.1, it synced quickly to 1155837
23:56 < jonny1000> thanks
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