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00:14 < drTrololo> morning all
00:14 < drTrololo> channel of my dream
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01:57 < waxwing> contrapumpkin, i think generally we don't consider schemes where one side has to take the risk of permanent loss if the other side disappears.
01:58 < waxwing> also i think it's using a zero knowledge proof of hash preimage, but andytoshi has in mind a scheme where you use adaptor signatures and the secret is a scalar, the private->public key function acting similar to a hash function, and using new crypto to make that work cross chain.
01:59 < waxwing> about zkp of preimage of hash function, i think the new bulletproofs/bootle stuff apparently may allow that to be feasible? don't know details but i've always thought that would be a great thing to have in your pocket
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02:25 < sipa> waxwing: you can construct hash functions that are easy-ish to prove preimages for using arithmetiv circuits (which would enable using bulletproofs or snarks etc)
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02:32 < maaku> sipa: it'd be nice to see a writeup of that. andytoshi tried explaining it to me and it wasn't clear how you feed the state forward into the next round
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02:59 < sipa> maaku: i don't know how to do the conversion from arithmetic circuit to bulletproof, but i think i can construct an ec multiplication circuit
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04:30 < nsh> is there a libsecp256k1 equivalent of this modular inverse optimisation for openssl? http://openssl.6102.n7.nabble.com/openssl-dev-openssl-org-3810-PATCH-Improved-P256-ECC-performance-by-means-of-a-dedicated-function-for-td57598.html
04:32 < nsh> oh i hadn't seen this branch before: https://github.com/llamasoft/secp256k1_fast_unsafe
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04:40 < nsh> incidentally, DLP on the curve can be broken with a QC using Shor's algorithm with at most 224*n^2*log2(n) + 2045*n^2 = 1.26 * 10^11 tiffoli gates (but only 2330 to simulate point addition) with some fun little bonus stuff (inc. a reversible immpl of Montgomery inversion via binary GCD as a quantum circuit)
04:40 < nsh> - https://arxiv.org/pdf/1706.06752.pdf
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07:30 < contrapumpkin> waxwing: oh, I missed that part of this one
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