--- Log opened Fri Jan 05 00:00:03 2018 00:13 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:31 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:37 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eyjzmlpofitcrbls] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:44 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-115-22.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:48 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:50 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:05 < maaku> stoffu: you didn't understand my attack 01:07 -!- jl2012 [sid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jauxjnntatagdssi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:09 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:11 < stoffu> Yeah maybe, I just didn't understand your description as I cited above. 01:13 < stoffu> Can you explain what you meant when you said "you select, randomly, inputs from someone in east asia that makes transactions normally when you are asleep"? 01:14 < stoffu> There's no such consideration about time zone or geography in the ring member selection algorithm. 01:14 < stoffu> Maybe this is better suited for #monero-research-lab etc, since it's entirely irrelevant to Bitcoin. 01:18 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@91.216.245.111] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:22 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-73-119-55-73.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24 -!- Fugazi_ [~Fugazi@79-67-126-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:24 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2601:182:cd00:2dd1:94dc:cafa:379b:6701] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:25 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:28 -!- itsme_ [~textual@x4d04c5c8.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:29 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adzvzdzimcsxxxzn] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:31 -!- daszorz [~daszorz@188.94.18.118] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:41 -!- vicenteH [~user@195.235.96.150] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:46 -!- domwoe [~domwoe@2001:67c:10ec:52c5:8000::60] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:46 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:49 -!- domwoe [~domwoe@2001:67c:10ec:52c5:8000::60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kmgskbukkylhceti] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:25 -!- airbreather_ [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:28 -!- airbreather [~airbreath@d149-67-99-43.nap.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:32 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:44 -!- itsme_ [~textual@x4d04c5c8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: My Mac Pro has gone to sleep. 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