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00:09 < sipa> maaku: the only real advantage i see is that per-tx aggregation becomesuch easier
00:09 < sipa> *becomes mucj
00:09 < sipa> **becomes much
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00:23 < sipa> andytoshi: taylor swift is not the optimal popstar, and not correct about the content of her song
00:24  * waxwing blinks
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09:34 < waxwing> anyhow :)
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09:34 < waxwing> on the topic of BLS, this comment looked interesting, thoughts? https://twitter.com/kennyog/status/956942735746969600
09:34 < waxwing> .tw https://twitter.com/kennyog/status/956942735746969600
09:34 < yoleaux> @paddyucl Good to know. BLS needs pairings, and they have been getting more expensive, not less, in the last couple of years. Think SPECTRE for pairings, replacing "number theory" for "speculative execution"! (@kennyog, in reply to tw:956942223177760768)
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09:52 < instagibbs> waxwing, he followed up with a tweet linking to the paper which IIRC resulted in larger required key sizes
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13:16 < waxwing> he's saying it's 'hilarious that cryptocurrency people like schnorr' but so far the only negative thing he can point to is susceptibility to repeated nonces, which of course is just the same as ecdsa
13:16 < waxwing> and doesn't seem to be willing to point at an alternative
13:17 < waxwing> afaict there's advantages in: performance, ecdlp reduction, and that its linearity allows doing various "stuff". if the only negative is the repeated nonce thing, then that's not very interesting (not negative cf ecdsa). but i guess the key point is what is an alternative.
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16:16 < uiuc-slack> <stonecoldpat> yeah; i asked if there was any alternatives and there was no recommendation
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17:51 < smk>        ''''
17:51 < smk>        (o o)
17:51 < smk> _ooOo___(_)___oOoo____
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17:56 < waxwing> oh there's a slack bridge? which slack is that? hi paddy :)
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18:35 < andytoshi> oof, the bulletproofs optimization i was excited about is less exciting: i forgot about the 2log(n) L and R points in each proof, which are different for different proofs. so there are 18 additional points per rangeproof rather than 4, so the hit will be more like 5-600us rather than the 200us that benedikt mentioned in his talk
18:35 < andytoshi> the 200 was deliberately very conservative, but apparently not enough
18:38 < andytoshi> oh, lg(64) is 6, not 7. so 16 additional points.
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21:02 < maaku> andytoshi: :(
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