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01:18 < andytoshi> threshold signatures involve quadratic communication at setup, each signer sends some small amount of data to each other signer. at signing time it's linear
01:19 < andytoshi> in that each signer just broadcasts a small amount of stuff
01:19 < andytoshi> under no circumstances is there the combinatorial explosion that you see with keytrees
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03:14 < maaku> andytoshi: I don't think that's correct? the amount of data sent to/from each peer during setup depends on the number of signing sets they are involved with, which is combinatorial
03:14 < maaku> unless you are talking about a different scheme than I am thinking of
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03:16 < andytoshi> yeah i'm thinking specifically about single thresholds
03:16 < andytoshi> i suppose you could have a combinatorial number of sets that isn't a threshold
03:17 < andytoshi> kanzure: should i correct some of benedikt's numbers ? it would become a false transcript but OTOH his numbers for ECDSA verify and for bulletproof batch verification are incorrect
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04:08 < RubenSomsen> andytoshi: Thanks for explaining, that is what I was wondering about. That sounds pretty good then.
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05:58 < kanzure> andytoshi: yes edit away, and if you feel like you're violating the sanctity of the transcript then add a disclaimer at the top or bottom
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06:09 < andytoshi> yeah, waxwing suggested i just add a footnote
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07:12 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/bitcoin-tech-dev-talks-schnorr-signatures.2018-02-01.pdf
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09:43 < andytoshi> kanzure: this is an awesome compilation, thanks
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09:50 < kanzure> yep sure.
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10:37 < contrapumpkin> kanzure: btw, in https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-bitcoin-selection-cryptography/ it's possible to link into youtube at a particular time
10:39 < contrapumpkin> oh I see you did that
10:39 < contrapumpkin> sorry, was confused by the title of the page
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12:12 < kanzure> "Atomic cross-chain swaps" https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.09515
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