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05:16 < jonasschnelli> Does anyone know of a scheme that is capable of generating a "proof" that user-entered entropy has been mixed into the seed without revealing the additional user-entered entropy (or the base entropy)?
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05:19 < jonasschnelli> Usecase: TRNG (HWW) + host-entropy = seed,... now HWW should be capable to provide a "proof" that can be verified on the "host" that a child-keys generated by the HWW did actually used the user provided additional entropy
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07:37 < kanzure> jonasschnelli: sounds like a use case for a zero-knowledge proof, where one of the inputs is hidden (the seed that you don't want to reveal but want to prove has been updated with user-supplied entropy)
07:38 < kanzure> thankfully, hash functions are very expensive to put into a snark
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07:55 < sipa_> kanzure: you can construct hash functions that are easier to prove in zk systems
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08:01 < sipa_> if you don't need uniformity but just collision/preinage resistance, a pedersen hash function cna be used over an EC curve whose field size is the proof system's scalar size - for around 8 multiplication gates per 3 bits of hash input
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13:51 < waxwing> have people here seen this by Chator and Green? https://isi.jhu.edu/~mgreen/mixing.pdf (i don't know the date)
13:51 < waxwing> "Reducing bandwidth in mixing cryptocurrencies"
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14:52 < roasbeef> waxwing: i've seen green mention the work off-hand before, but today was the first time i'd seen him publicly link to it (on twitter)
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