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03:54 < mikez> Is raw Multisig quantum-vulnerable just as P2KH is? Isn't this a bit of a problem?
03:54 < mikez> *P2PK
03:55 < mikez> (Assuming P2PK being quantum-vulnerable is a problem)
03:56 < aj> mikez: it's better to do multisig via p2sh or p2wsh though, which makes it about as safe as p2pkh
03:56 < mikez> Yeah, I know... thing is, p2pk is non-standard because of quantum-vulnerability, while Multisig is still standard
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03:56 < mikez> Which made me wonder why the discrepancy
03:57 < erltho_> I though that if the hashing algorithm is based on a problem unefficient for the quantum computer to solve, by hashing the key, Bitcoin will not be affected?
03:57 < mikez> erltho_: thing is - in raw Multisig the key is not hashed
03:57 < erltho_> In LN, I think p2wsh is standard
03:58 < erltho_> I see, then that will be a problem indeed, if using raw multisig
04:01 < aj> mikez: err, i thought p2pk was still standard? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/script/standard.cpp#L26
04:02 < mikez> Oh, it is indeed... I read some documentation that stated that it is not, oh well :)
04:02 < mikez> thanks for the answer
04:03 < aj> mikez: thanks for the question :)
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04:36 < fluffypony> bsm117532: I agree - I was joking about PoWoT; still, I think that a WoT might be useful for many of the human-to-human interactions we do
04:36 < fluffypony> eg. going into business with someone
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04:41 < bsm117532> I find your meat mapping algorithm to be lacking.
04:46 < bsm117532> Web of Trust is a meat-mapping algorithm.  As such, it is NOT self-sovereign.  People will make as many identities as they need and dump those that are not useful.
04:46 < bsm117532> Meat-mapping is inherently coercive, and should be done by governments where appropriate for debt collection and law enforcement.
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07:01  * fluffypony ponders
07:12  * kanzure megaponders
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08:16 < nsh> (O/T: Java 9 has a parser/lexer/compiler bug that results in a regression of basic expression expansion, found by code golfers - imperative code gets double-executed for += exps:  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50683786/why-does-arrayin-i-give-different-results-in-java-8-and-java-10 )
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