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boston thing? i think i watched it yeah. nbd. 07:46 < waxwing> k i think it must be that one: https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/wizardry/mw-slides/2018-05-l2/slides.pdf 07:51 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-151-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:52 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-175-233-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:05 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:07 < waxwing> am i the only one who always wants to write Monero-Sanchez instead of Moreno-Sanchez 08:08 < kanzure> missingno-sanchez 08:10 < kanzure> 330663ef6b0e88148d27c2743fd224765a82370cd43da7954d047a696ac3c26e http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/filehashes.2018-06-18.txt 08:17 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:18 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/1008730113830203395 08:18 < yoleaux> sha256 hashes of various bitcoin papers 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there are any notes or writeups on examples of how it might work (like: sample keys, sample script, set of steps followed by participants); it's easy to think you understand what you're reading but .. not to. 12:28 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:30 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:30 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:30 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@96.53.77.134] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:30 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@96.53.77.134] has quit [Changing host] 12:30 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:39 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:42 < andytoshi> waxwing: not really any notes on graftroot, there's been a lot of private back-and-forth about what those details would even look like 13:03 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 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