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ZZZzzz…] 19:37 -!- TheoStorm [~dnaleor@29.103.115.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:40 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:38 < andytoshi> if you required low-s and R.y quadratic that would burn coins that were controlled solely by old signers 20:38 < andytoshi> i'm not sure what you mean by "checking without verifying the signature", you only ever need to check it when you're verifying 20:55 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:00 -!- RubenSomsen [uid301948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udpqtblmvzdfcpad] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:01 -!- son0p [~ff@adsl201-232-238-252.epm.net.co] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:03 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:07 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:25 < maaku> andytoshi: how would it burn coins? 25% of nonces would generate low-s, R.y quadratic signatures 21:27 < maaku> andytoshi: "you only ever need to check it when you're verifying" this is incorrect, low-s is an IsStandard check prior to signature verification 21:34 < maaku> wait, no, I was confused. it's only checked in context. naturally as that's when you have the scripts 21:40 -!- ynakasone [~ynakasone@zz2014411797B6F89E82.userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:59 -!- ynakasone [~ynakasone@zz2014411797B6F89E82.userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has quit [] 22:20 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:32 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:51 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:55 -!- rilos [~rilos@unaffiliated/rilos] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 22:56 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:25 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:31 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:36 -!- licnep [uid4387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llhbreomfuipxklj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:40 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:47 -!- ekrion [~ff@adsl201-232-238-252.epm.net.co] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:48 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:54 -!- marcoagner [~user@156.97.60.94.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Jul 06 00:00:06 2018