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-!- p0nziph0ne [p0nziph0ne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:27 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:30 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:32 -!- tromp [~tromp@ip-217-103-3-94.ip.prioritytelecom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:32 < jimpo> Unlinkable atomic swaps between honest but mutually distrusting parties are possible just with MAST, right? Like each output has three spend clauses, 2-of-2 multisig, sig + hash preimage, sig + CLTV. Requires an additional round of interaction though. 14:32 < jimpo> Or is that not correct? 14:33 -!- execute [~execute@52.68.0.151] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:33 < gmaxwell> they're possible without mast, using refund transactions. So long as you don't mind only having the anonymity set of 2 of 2 multisig. 14:34 < jimpo> Oh, good point. 14:35 < gmaxwell> pre-segwit refund tx were vulnerable to malleability, but thats solved now. 14:36 < gmaxwell> Now the only issue with them is just implementing the state machine that handles the refunds and what not is a PITA. 14:39 < jimpo> Wait, actually, how do you make them unlinkable (without the expensive cut-and-choose type thing)? 14:40 < jimpo> nvm, I think I see it. Where the 2-of-2 multisig has a presigned tx going to a regular atomic swap type tx. 14:41 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:42 < gmaxwell> jimpo: right https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321228.0 14:42 < gmaxwell> (the specific protocol there is more complicated than you'd need now, becuase of things like CSV, but it covers the idea) 14:44 < jimpo> thx 15:03 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-232-73.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:03 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-232-73.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Changing host] 15:03 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:03 -!- son0p [~ff@181.137.68.184] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:17 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:24 -!- LeMiner [~LeMiner@unaffiliated/leminer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:29 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~mdunn@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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