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[~textual@host86-170-219-48.range86-170.btcentralplus.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:48 -!- Jmabsd [~jmabsd@2404:c800:970f:b898:6de9:a53e:ccff:9439] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:48 < Jmabsd> Segwit uses the 0x00 opcode to push a "0" (zero) to the stack, refhttps://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0141.mediawiki#P2WPKH 00:48 < Jmabsd> 0x00 means "push an empty vector to the stack". this is used to signify false and also zero right, so that's the motivation for using 0x00, yes? 00:49 < luke-jr> Jmabsd: zero is an empty vector 00:50 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-075-127-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:51 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-170-090-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:51 < Jmabsd> luke-jr: right. if later on the segwit version number would be bumped to 1, 2 etc., then OP_1, OP_2 etc. with opcodes 81, 82 etc. would be used, right. 00:53 < Dizzle> Right. 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some kind of rainbow table attack based on grinding hashes of valid spend txes and from the other side grinding valid existing signatures for an address using the @satoshi trick 11:52 < sipa> you mean a collision search? 11:52 < nsh> yeah 11:52 < sipa> (rainbow tables are a way to compact dictionary attacks, doesn't apply here i think) 11:52 < sipa> yes, there is, but it's O(2^128) complexity, the same as an ECDLP grind 11:52 < nsh> well, i mean losely as intermediary representation time-space tradeoff attack 11:52 < sipa> and you need to know the pubkey for both 11:52 < nsh> right 11:52 < nsh> thanks 11:53 < nsh> still gets easier the more valid sigs you have though, which maybe makes it worse than a standard collision search 11:53 < nsh> but that easier costs lookup space 11:53 < nsh> i'm just thinking of djb's minding p and q's sieve methodology 11:53 < nsh> but maybe it's not applicable 11:55 -!- gribble [~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble] has quit [Remote host closed the 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