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06:25 < kanzure> middle mode could get your node banned if a peer feeds you bad data that you don't check (and verification adds delay)
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07:38 < kanzure> this seems to suffer from network topology issues and bandwidth increasing with the number of hops https://medium.com/@SaitoOfficial/eliminating-51-attacks-in-proof-of-work-blockchains-e95c60d6085a
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07:46 < gmaxwell> gleb: that was why my first description suggested out-- doesn't have the inbound could turn out to be forwarded property.  But I think in practice it wouldn't matter.
07:47 < gmaxwell> kanzure: I think we'll eliminate banning more or less entirely in not too long. It's not very useful.
07:48 < gmaxwell> but even ignoring that, you only get at most one ban per time you do it... so just don't do enough of it that banning would be an issue.
07:48 < gmaxwell> You could indeed validate everything but I think that would make the implementation a lot less easy.
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07:52 < kanzure> what is the alternative to banning?
07:52 < gmaxwell> Not banning.
07:53 < gmaxwell> You can just disconnect the peer. Banning doesn't accomplish much more than that.
07:53 < gmaxwell> a broken but non-malicious peer, you're not going to end up connected to again soon..
07:54 < gmaxwell> and a malicious peer can just reconnect under another IP.
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07:54 < gmaxwell> Esp with v6 it's trivial for an attacker to just change addresses, and tor inbound doesn't even have an address to ban.
07:58 < kanzure> alright
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