--- Log opened Sat Feb 02 00:00:38 2019 00:33 -!- _whitelogger [~whitelogg@uruz.whitequark.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34 -!- _whitelogger [~whitelogg@uruz.whitequark.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:19 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:21 -!- davec [~davec@cpe-24-243-249-218.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:49 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:51 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:03 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:03 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:03 -!- lenovuh [~lenovuh@109.81-167-1.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 02:28 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:29 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 02:33 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:46 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:51 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:56 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:03 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:16 -!- kokoska69 [~yaaic@ip-89-102-145-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:16 -!- kokoska69 [~yaaic@ip-89-102-145-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30 -!- kokoska69 [~yaaic@ip-89-102-145-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:40 -!- kokoska69 [~yaaic@ip-89-102-145-124.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:07 -!- aguycalled [~user@unaffiliated/aguycalled] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:11 -!- aguycalled [~user@unaffiliated/aguycalled] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:22 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:33 -!- jtimon [~quassel@92.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:37 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:43 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plquspeephzsuhjc] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:58 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:58 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:02 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-118-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:48 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:01 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:01 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:16 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:29 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:30 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:26 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:41 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:53 < sarang> I was reading the paper on the new Sonic SNARK scheme, interested mainly in the updateable SRS... the paper did not make it clear what the assumptions were on the update process and any verification of such an update. Any insights from this room? 08:54 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:07 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-lzquwqj.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:07 < nsh> which paper, sarang? 09:08 < nsh> ah https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/099.pdf 09:08 < sarang> Yep 09:17 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:29 < nsh> it has occurred to me that zero-knowledge properties might be useful for local computations as well as for distributed systems, but i am not yet able to formalise this intuition meaningfully enough 09:30 < nsh> but the rough idea is to implement quantum-like computations classically by operating in zero-knowledge to produce certificates of completion of subtasks but have the route by which they were arrived at be unknown to the computer 09:30 < nsh> and operating in zero-knowledge should conceivably enable this 09:38 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:41 -!- nephyrin [~neph@2601:600:817f:a19a:a5cf:8446:c53:57b2] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:44 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:46 -!- DougieBot5000_ is now known as DougieBot5000 09:59 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 10:11 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 10:22 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:41 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:42 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plquspeephzsuhjc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:45 < nsh> what would/might the/a transition plan be in the case of a known break of ecc 10:46 < nsh> security of addresses would rest on ripemd160 collision and second-preimage resistance 10:46 < nsh> which we shouldn't expect to hold more than a few decades 10:47 < nsh> obviously the worst-case scenario is a simultaneous break of the hash and asymmetric cryptography primitives but assuming the latter breaks first it seems sensible to have some transition proposals 11:02 -!- apeng [~apeng@unaffiliated/apengdada] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:18 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-118-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:22 -!- jtimon [~quassel@92.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:27 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 11:28 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:31 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-118-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:31 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-118-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:44 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:49 -!- apeng [~apeng@unaffiliated/apengdada] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:01 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:10 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 12:13 -!- apeng [~apeng@unaffiliated/apengdada] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:25 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:50 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-76-102-227-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 13:17 -!- shesek [~shesek@141.226.217.238] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:17 -!- shesek [~shesek@141.226.217.238] has quit [Changing host] 13:17 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:01 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 14:13 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:15 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:19 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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