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06:07 < real_or_random> https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/266  Fast constant-time gcd computation and modular inversion
06:07 < sarang> Looks like a concrete example for curve25519 p-inversion too
06:09 < real_or_random> yes, I haven't had a closer look but if it saves time on curve25519, it may save time on secp256k1 too
06:12 < nsh> can you take the DLP over a specified curve and translate it into a finite field over the integers with more or less isomorphism?
06:13 < nsh> because some of the properties of curves don't seem to have equivalences over the integers
06:13 < nsh> like twists and such
06:13 < nsh> but there are presumably computational complexity theoretical reductions between the DLP in both settings
06:15 < nsh> more concretely what would be required to leverage an oracle running Shor's algorithm to attack ecDLP or is this not possible generally?
06:16  * nsh reads https://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/52777/how-can-shors-algorithm-be-applied-to-ecc
06:16 < nsh> ah okay so the modular exponentiation circuit is just adapted slightly
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08:08 < sipa> nsh: i'm not expert, but that sounds like how pairing works
08:10 < sipa> nsh: though to an extension field of sufficient size so that DLP isn't easy there
08:11  * nsh nods
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12:17 < gmaxwell> real_or_random: dettman had come up with a faster inverse that works for us, but no one got around to implementing it in C completely (dettman implemented it in java).  I don't know how the one in that paper compares, but it might be easier to implement.
12:18 < sarang> gmaxwell: specific to 25519's prime?
12:18 < sarang> er, secp...
12:18 < sarang> (I'm so used to thinking 25519...)
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12:19 < gmaxwell> it would work for a variety of numbers. (you'd implement it specific to a particular value)
12:20 < sarang> Is there code available? I'm curious to see it
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12:25 < gmaxwell> sarang: read the thread on this PR https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/290
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12:26 < sarang> ty gmaxwell
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14:05 < kinzo> Hi, sorry if this not the correct channel for this question: There's any group or channel for dicussion about blockchain papers *in general* (not restricted to bitcoin).
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14:07 < sarang> I personally enjoy seeing discussion here about quality research work done in applied cryptography
14:07 < sipa> this may be a controversial opinion, but if they're vaguely applicable to bitcoin or hypothetical systems that work similarly, it's probably on topic here. if they're not, they're probably mostly buzzwords :)
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14:09 < kinzo> I'm reading the Avalanche consensus whitepaper... I'm interested in dicussing with other people their idea or having a little help with their analysis maths.
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