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Is it only "hidden" while unspent? 17:31 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org ? ??????????? ?????????. ????-??.] 17:32 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:38 < sipa> ruby32: no,always 17:38 < sipa> even after spending you only see a signature 17:39 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:57 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:57 < ruby32> sipa: Okay, so, in all four combinations (spent/unspent) x (coop spend/outputs) they are all indistinguishable from each other with this update? 18:07 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught up with me...] 18:09 < sipa> ruby32: every taproot output can be spent by either just a key, or a script, or a script and a key 18:10 < sipa> and spending time, you can see whether it is being spent through a key or through a script (and in case.of the latter, which script) 18:10 < sipa> but if you have an output that is spendable using a key or a script, and you spend it using a key, you can't tell that there was also a script path 18:12 -!- spinza [~spin@155.93.246.187] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:16 < ruby32> Thank you sipa I understand now 18:16 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:16 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:17 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:23 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:32 -!- Belkaar_ [~Belkaar@xdsl-87-78-95-58.nc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-81-173-153-19.nc.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@xdsl-81-173-153-19.nc.de] has quit [Changing host] 18:33 -!- Belkaar [~Belkaar@unaffiliated/belkaar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:46 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:51 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:04 -!- ruby32 [~ruby32@otwaon1243w-grc-03-142-113-234-82.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04 -!- ruby32 [~ruby32@otwaon1243w-grc-03-142-113-234-82.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:07 -!- Guest1469 is now known as takinbo 19:07 -!- takinbo [sid19838@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-khjxhymesieoomuc] has quit [Changing host] 19:07 -!- takinbo [sid19838@unaffiliated/takinbo] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:07 -!- takinbo [sid19838@unaffiliated/takinbo] has quit [Changing host] 19:07 -!- takinbo [sid19838@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-khjxhymesieoomuc] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:31 -!- ruby32 [~ruby32@otwaon1243w-grc-03-142-113-234-82.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:38 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-73-92-181-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: pinheadmz] 19:46 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 19:47 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@93.178.216.72] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:48 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@c-73-92-181-51.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:00 -!- gonemad3 [~gonemad3@31.13.191.137] has quit [] 20:02 < kanzure> .title https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-May/016994.html 20:02 < yoleaux> [bitcoin-dev] Bandwidth-Efficient Transaction Relay for Bitcoin 20:03 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@pcd537031.netvigator.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:11 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. 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