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E.g. Alice's minfeerate is higher (more restrictive) than Bob's. Does Bob take that into account when generating a sketch, e.g. by only using transactions in his mempool whose feerate is above Alice's BIP133 feefilter setting to create his sketch? Or are you only creating sketches for the top n MB of data in the 05:59 < harding> mempool? Or did Erlay save enough bandwidth on its own that worrying about Alice requesting some low-feerate transactions she'd just throw away anyway wasn't important? (Or something else?) 06:06 < instagibbs> IIRC for erlay you're basically computing what invs you *would have* sent within that time period, so I don't think it matters much? 06:07 -!- Guyver2 [AdiIRC@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:07 < instagibbs> though using feefilter hint that's already sent over p2p makes a lot of sense i think 06:08 < sipa> harding: right, what instagibbs says 06:09 < sipa> you don't reconcile the mempools directly; that would be a problem as it would cost repeating bandwidth on every reconciliation when there is a divergence (when there is a double spend for example) 06:11 < sipa> instead, you reconcile sets of transactions you would have announced, but didn't because flooding is restricted to 8 outgoing peers 06:11 < sipa> with the set of transactions the other party would have relayed to you during the same time interval 06:12 < sipa> this way, every transaction is only ever attempted to be reconciled once 06:12 < sipa> over every link 06:13 < harding> Ah. I thought that's what it did, but then I think I got confused somewhere. 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wizards, I'm trying to compile a list of protocol development philosophies because I think there's a lot of unwritten / hard to find knowledge. this is a very rough draft but I'd appreciate any input / additions / corrections: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CfDcJMw3bErBhZ56aIpDpe4ZpLAFrApN1LVQYHEgnco/edit?usp=sharing 09:10 -!- jeanlucas [uid21011@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eoyjmakfcnviqmpa] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:18 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:20 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@208.69.41.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:24 -!- pinheadmz [~matthewzi@208.69.41.101] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:34 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:40 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@p200300CF33C4270070F5B92D11E51823.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41 -!- 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