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05:31 < bsm117532> kanzure: DAA on a DAG is a bit different -- since a DAG is fundamentally asynchronous and a difficulty adjustment is a synchronous change. This is why I proposed to allow miners to choose their own difficulty within some window set by the measured latency of the network (orphan rate).
05:32 < bsm117532> so given a time parameter 'a' taken from the measured orphan rate, and a reward function R(t) your allowed window of difficulty is proportinoal to a*dR/dt
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05:32 < bsm117532> Anyway this is a wild departure from bitcoin.
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05:37 < bsm117532> s/difficulty/reward/.  But you can do the same with a DAA
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08:06 < tromp> bsm117532: some DAG coins divide the txs into layers, e.g. https://spacemesh.io/
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08:25 < jb55> is anyone doing something like Erlay but for content-centric mesh networking?
08:25 < jb55> seems like it would be a good application of that
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09:23 < jb55> nothingmuch is pointing out that it makes more sense in the context of a set of hashes that every node wants, and perhaps we would want something more efficient for the generic case...
09:24 < jb55> nothingmuch: if I'm summarizing that correctly
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09:28 < sipa> jb55: yeah i think it's generally useful in the context of gossip networks
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09:38 < jb55> sipa: yeah lightning gossip seems like an obvious next application
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10:32 < nothingmuch> jb55: pretty much, though perhaps more interestingly that distributed search that assumes something like gossip underlies it might be more practical with clever set reconcilation, so long as there are enough fixpoints to make use of these optimizations
10:33 < nothingmuch> (but conceptually still thinking about it as gossip for simplicity)
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11:27 < gleb> jb55: I always respond that lightning perhaps has more important problems to solve at the moment, but I'd be glad if someone tells me I'm wrong :)
11:29 < gleb> I think we can tweak set recon protocol towards set privacy as a primary goal, if that'd make more sense in a particular use-case.
11:45 < nothingmuch> gleb: got any references for privacy preserving set reconcilation? is "set privacy" the idea that a node doesn't reveal of the members it has?
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12:36 < jb55> gleb: yeah not sure if bip158/neutrino helps here. the idea of privacy-preserving, bandwidth-efficient lookups of hashes could be generally useful
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14:19 < gleb> nothingmuch jb55: I think what we want to look into is called private set intersection. I haven't spend as much time on it as I should.
14:19 < uiuc-slack1> <suryab> what do you guys think of ic3?
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15:31 < uiuc-slack1> <mdbailey> i love ic3
15:31 < uiuc-slack1> <mdbailey> its the best
15:31 < uiuc-slack1> <mdbailey> waaaay better than ic2
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18:09 < nothingmuch> gleb: thanks!
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