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16:55 < rottensox> Schnorr signatures BIP: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0340.mediawiki
16:55 < rottensox> SegWit 1 BIP: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0341.mediawiki
16:55 < rottensox> Taproot BIP (so to speak...): https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0342.mediawiki
16:56 < sipa> 341 is taproot; 342 is the script changes under taproot
16:56 < rottensox> ah.
16:56 < rottensox> :D
16:56 < rottensox> thanks.
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17:19 < jeremyrubin> So one question that I think is kinda tricky is how to work with fixed-width integers from Bitcoin script without violating minimal encodings?
17:20 < jeremyrubin> Should we be adding some sort of OP_PAD{32,64} that fits an integer into 32/64 bits?
17:20 < jeremyrubin> Or just relax encoding rules?
17:24 < sipa> in what context is this a problem?
17:32 < jeremyrubin> I don't beleive it to be a problem at present
17:33 < jeremyrubin> But in OP_CTV at some point, if OP_CAT is added, you may want to perform numeric operations on an item that you then concatenate onto a stack element
17:34 < jeremyrubin> You can handle this with an if/else tree which calls OP_SIZE and then adds the correct number of zeroes I guess?
17:34 < sipa> i don't see the problem
17:34 < sipa> ah
17:34 < jeremyrubin> The issue is that the stack element then gets hashed
17:34 < sipa> you mean for nsequence/nlocktime stuff?
17:35 < jeremyrubin> And if the encoding isn't proper, you then have an issue
17:35 < jeremyrubin> yeah
17:35 < sipa> ok, that wasn't clear
17:35 < jeremyrubin> A solution??? might be to minimal encode them for the  hash. But I hate that for pretty good reason
17:35 < sipa> OP_SUBSTR to the rescue? :p
17:35 < jeremyrubin> Hmm
17:35 < sipa> substr(num + 0000, 0, 4)
17:35 < sipa> conceptually
17:35 < jeremyrubin> Ah, I guess that works?
17:36 < jeremyrubin> So you always over pad, and then remove?
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17:36 < sipa> it's a possibility (if SUBSTR existed...)
17:36 < jeremyrubin> I guess you can do a cat only version
17:38 < jeremyrubin> OP_SIZE OP_1 OP_LESSTHAN OP_IF "00" OP_SWAP OP_CAT
17:38 < jeremyrubin> something like that, but repeated a few times
17:39 < jeremyrubin> So i guess "problem solved"
17:42 < jeremyrubin> Hopefully by then we have an entire new script system :p
17:42 < jeremyrubin> with legit data types
17:43 < sipa> Data types? Where we're going we don't need data.
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17:43 < jeremyrubin> data types *in the zero knowledge constraint system*
17:43 < sipa> (imagining a glorious future in which script is replaced with a simple compact recursive NIZK)
17:44 < jeremyrubin> beat ya to it ;)
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