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11:28 < gmaxwell> I wonder if listening nodes who are getting incoming connections should randomly query dnsseeds to keep upstream caches primed, but throwing out the results (or comparing to their addrman, logging if there are a bunch of results they don't now about, then throwing away the results).  Those nodes are already not anonymous by virtue of sucessfully listening, so they don't gain anything by trying
11:28 < gmaxwell> to hide that they exist.
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11:37 < M7918070_[m]> hey gmaxwell do you think the BCH attack is a threat for Bitcoin too?
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12:56 < gleb> gmaxwell: the problem it would solve is that private nodes will hit dns servers less, right?
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13:25 < dell__> hi someone is bussy stealing my bitcoins in blockchain im really tired of this i came here to ask advice\
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13:33 < gmaxwell> gleb: yes. It would help hide private nodes from the dnsseeds.
13:36 < sipa> gmaxwell: interesting, and very easy to do
13:37 < gleb> Yeah, except, how you detect that you're a listening node. Inbound > 1? Maybe it's fine for this use case...
13:37 < gmaxwell> it would also make you more likely to catch misbehaving dnsseeds or eclipse attacks, if the extra step of comparing the results to addrman and logging were taken.
13:37 < gmaxwell> inbound >1 from a public ipaddress. Obviously discover=0 would turn the behavior off.
13:38 < gmaxwell> I dunno what typical dnsseed ttls are, hopefully fairly long... ideally it would run once per ttl.
13:44 < gleb> Concept ack :)
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13:46 < gmaxwell> it was just something that occured to me while I was correcting someone on bitcointalk that said that IRC based node introduction was more decenteralized than dnsseeds.
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14:01 < jonatack> gmaxwell: interesting indeed
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