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00:53 < nothingmuch> in a Schnorr like sigma protocol, is it valid for a response scalar to be 0? i received a suggestion to check for that, but i can't convince myself that's the right thing to do
00:53 < nothingmuch> seems to me like that breaks completeness with negligible probability, and can't be exploited since constructing an adverserial commitment requires advance knowledge of the challenge
00:54 < nothingmuch> context: https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/pull/4277#discussion_r481790116
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01:06 < sipa> nothingmuch: response scalar, the 's' value?
01:13 < nothingmuch> sipa: yes
01:14 < nothingmuch> in this case the actual protocol is a generalized version, so it's an n * m scalars
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10:45 < sanket1729> nothingmuch: Does s=0 it really break completeness? I don't think s = 0 should be an issue
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10:47 < sanket1729> I think protocol is proved perfectly complete
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11:43 < nothingmuch> sanket1729: i don't think s=0 is an issue (can't see how that breaks soundness), and i think adding a constraint that s != 0 would break completeness, but not in any meaningful way
11:43 < sanket1729> Ah, makes sense. I did not follow along completely.
11:44 < sipa> what does completeness mean in this context?
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11:44 < sanket1729> True, adding s!=0 would indeed break completeness
11:44 < sipa> if you accidentally end up with s=0, pick a different nonce
11:44 < sipa> you already need to do that if the nonce is out of range or 0, in practice
11:45 < nothingmuch> is there any reason for the verifier to require that s != 0?
11:45 < sipa> i don't think so
11:46 < sipa> i think it's not a problem to support either
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11:47 < nothingmuch> yep, on the prover side i think i will be adding that suggestion in the PR after the next one (Fiat-Shamir transform on top of this)
11:48 < nothingmuch> thanks for the guidance, i'm reasonably happy, before i was doubting myself but 4 people seem to agree i'm not an idiot (well, about this one thing)
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