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Could change the separator so it is bc2 but 2 is in the bech32 character set 07:18 < pinheadmz> michaelfolkson well segwit v1 addresses will have a "p" after the separator instead of a "q" 07:19 < pinheadmz> I was reading 173 trying to answer your first question, and I think I found a typo: 07:19 * pinheadmz https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1051 07:19 < michaelfolkson> Ah gotcha the witness version actually is already in the bech32 address 07:20 < michaelfolkson> Thanks, missed that 07:31 < pinheadmz> michaelfolkson did you figure out if v0 addresses are vulnerable to adding 20 q's ? 07:32 < michaelfolkson> pinheadmz: Nope not yet 07:36 < michaelfolkson> In theory you could also delete 20 qs (if there were 20 qs) but probability of that is ~0 07:38 < pinheadmz> heh a script hash address where the hash of the script ends in like 12 0's... could be a valid address but doubtful there is a script that matches 07:38 < pinheadmz> also the math is a little funny because each character represents 5 bits 07:38 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:39 < pinheadmz> so 20 q's is 100 bits which is 12.5 bytes - so that cant be valid right? 07:40 < pinheadmz> oh bip173 says pad with zeros if needed never mind 07:40 < pinheadmz> makes sense, 20 byte P2WPKH + 12 bytes ~= 32 byte P2WSH 07:41 < pinheadmz> so the last 4 `0` bits are ignored 07:43 < michaelfolkson> Right 07:45 -!- Setherson [~Setherson@108-255-110-61.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:45 -!- Setherson [~Setherson@108-255-110-61.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:46 < michaelfolkson> Applying bech32m to existing SegWit v0 would presumably make it confusing for wallets, that's the only reason for not doing that right? 07:46 < michaelfolkson> You could have bech32 SegWit v0 and bech32m SegWit v0 addresses in theory 07:52 < michaelfolkson> Would run the two checksum algorithms on the SegWit v0 address to work out if it is a valid SegWit v0 bech32 or a valid SegWit v0 bech32m 08:00 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:01 < michaelfolkson> On the 20 q character question you could just have the checksum reject an address with 20 q's in it 08:04 < michaelfolkson> Presumably no addresses on the blockchain contain 20 q's. But if you did that a future address with 20 q's could cause a blockchain split? Lol I don't know 08:06 < michaelfolkson> The checksum isn't a consensus rule so that's nonsense, ignore me 08:26 -!- jadi [~jadi@213.207.199.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 -!- jadi [~jadi@213.207.199.117] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:39 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@2601:645:c200:14:91a5:d8cb:fe32:d136] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:43 -!- gleb [~gleb@178.150.137.228] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:17 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:58 -!- Guyver2 [Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:45 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:45 -!- shesek [~shesek@164.90.217.137] has quit [Changing host] 10:45 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:53 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@78-22-87-51.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:54 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@78-22-87-51.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bnbeypsmciorahbw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:44 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:46 -!- ddustin_ [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:47 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@78-22-87-51.access.telenet.be] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:50 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@78-22-87-51.access.telenet.be] has quit [Client Quit] 11:55 -!- Leech [8a582d65@138.88.45.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:58 -!- kewde [6d88c481@109.136.196.129] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:00 < kewde> Would getting an SSH shell through an exposed unauthenticated bitcoind rpc api be something worth reporting? 12:02 < kewde> Some people are crazy enough to expose the bitcoind rpc api for public usage, thinking that it's safe if there's no wallets attached to it.. 12:05 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:09 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:13 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:30 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:35 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-p8vu8h.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:41 -!- TheoStorm [~TheoStorm@host-p8vu8h.cbn1.zeelandnet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 -!- roconnor [~roconnor@host-184-164-7-193.dyn.295.ca] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:00 < roconnor> michaelfolkson: Bech32 isn't designed to protect against 20 character edits. 14:01 < roconnor> Beyond the fact that any given random address has a one in a billion chance of being valid. 14:08 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-177-034-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:21 < nickler> kewde: people are crazy. And clightning and lnd for example require rpc api access. You certainly don't want to give them more capabilities than accessing whitelisted rpc commands. 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