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[~laptop@ppp-2-121.leed-a-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:09 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:10 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:10 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:12 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:12 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:19 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-ouuqpqzypguzxydq] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21 < avrdude> So, wizards.. how low is it dropping? 06:27 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-gwxattpcsjiwbqkj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:30 < michaelfolkson> No price talk on this channel please avrdude 06:32 < grosjean> avrdude: there's #bitcoin-price 06:35 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host 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I was thinking it could be useful for a sort of trust-on-first-use-no-reused-addresses thing where Exchange Alice gives User Bob an address, Bob deposits so funds, then Alice gives address2 with a signature from address1 that Bob can verify. Though, at that point it seems easier just to use a BIP32 keychain. 19:33 < aj> harding: hmm, might be easier to sign than have to deal with a new bip32 path of arbitrary depth if you deal with lots of people paying you? 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