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08:11 <+andytoshi> aj: unfortunately my feeling is that any opcode expressly designed for covenants is either going to get bikeshedded for being too general or for being too specific
08:12 <+andytoshi> agreed that you can't do P+H(P|S)G with just CAT ... at least not without revealing the secret key ... which unfornate because to effectively do covenants you need P to be NUMS, i.e. there isn't even any secret key to reveal
08:12 <+andytoshi> i'm not yet totally convinced you can't do this, or do recursive covenants, with just CAT .. but i've been banging me head against this for quite a while
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09:58 < queip> andytoshi: (taking a blind shot) no way to like commit to some origin of P, use P, and only later when it is "safe" then release actual origin of P proving it was NUMS?
09:59 < queip> like in different blocks, and only after revealing P' the effects of operation are executed?  P = hash(P')   like namecoin does with domain names
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10:38 <+andytoshi> queip: the problem is proving to Script that it's NUMS
10:39 <+andytoshi> and also doing arithmetic with it
10:39 <+andytoshi> i know how to do one or the other
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