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[~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:12 -!- EmmyNoether [~EmmyNoeth@oasys.ch0wn.org] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:23 -!- jadi [~jadi@178.131.153.237] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:24 -!- jadi [~jadi@178.131.153.237] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:29 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-141-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:48 -!- someone235 [uid419897@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqzphgtbshexlrtj] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:49 -!- AceHigh [~Satoshi@unaffiliated/acehigh] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 03:50 < AceHigh> hey all! 03:50 < AceHigh> i'm looking for a C++ dev to modify a bit of the bitcoin core and assist in creating a new network 03:50 < AceHigh> (paid) 03:52 < fluffypony> AceHigh: no. 03:53 < AceHigh> heh 03:53 < AceHigh> why? 03:53 < fluffypony> read the topic. 03:54 < AceHigh> oh, you mean that way 03:54 < AceHigh> right, it's sort of "theoretical idea" 03:55 < AceHigh> ii do need it short term though :) 03:55 < queip> AceHigh: creating altcoins is generally seen as scammy and not a good place for it here 03:55 < AceHigh> but ok, the wiki description advertises the channel slightly differently 03:55 < AceHigh> queip - and yet, litecoin, namecoin, eth... 03:56 < AceHigh> i know it's considered scammy 03:56 < fluffypony> AceHigh: just say the theoretical idea then 03:56 < queip> AceHigh: do you have an interesting innovatory idea to discuss, like mathematical etc 03:56 < AceHigh> I want to duplicate the existing consensus and adhear to it on a new network 03:56 < fluffypony> you mean like the utxoset? 03:57 < fluffypony> or like a sidechain / drivechain? 03:57 < AceHigh> unfamiliar with either 03:57 < AceHigh> i'm somewhat familiar with the word sidechain, at best here 03:58 < fluffypony> maybe start there 03:58 < fluffypony> there's a great likelihood that what you're thinking of has been done 03:58 < fluffypony> or at least is described in some untrafficked Bitcointalk post from 2011 03:58 < AceHigh> yea, but no 03:58 < AceHigh> i just want a "regular bitcoin" network that adhears 100% to the consensus of the bitcoin core 03:59 < fluffypony> how is that any different from an altcoin 03:59 < queip> AceHigh: so it's no innovation in it is there? 04:00 < fluffypony> you're like 2 years too late, ForkGen has already been shut down 04:00 < fluffypony> https://web.archive.org/web/20190425155533/https://forkgen.tech/ 04:03 < AceHigh> fluffypony: the innovation is not in a new algorithm 04:03 < AceHigh> but rather in a new way to use the existing one 04:03 < AceHigh> i don't believe on copyrights 04:03 < fluffypony> so then why can't your new way to use it just be applied to Bitcoin? 04:03 < AceHigh> and limiting the proliferation of information, knowledge, code 04:04 < AceHigh> how do you apply "the new way" to bitcoin? 04:04 < AceHigh> bitcoin has a limited capacity with regards to blocksize and tx size 04:04 < fluffypony> anything you do on your fork can be done on Bitcoin 04:04 < AceHigh> as a result it rises in price 04:04 < fluffypony> ok then I suggest you go to the Bitcoin Cash people, they have an unlimited block size 04:04 < AceHigh> no fluffypony, i want to copy the existing code and launch a new network based on exactly the same code and consensus 04:05 < AceHigh> i don't want to modify the block size 04:05 < AceHigh> i'm not a cash person myself 04:05 < fluffypony> at no point have you suggested anything even remotely close to an innovation 04:05 < AceHigh> ok 04:05 < AceHigh> and yet you reject it 04:05 < AceHigh> so it's not novel, but no one tried it, or suggested it before 04:05 < AceHigh> makes total sense... 04:06 < fluffypony> you haven't told us what "it" is 04:06 < fluffypony> you want to fork Bitcoin and use it in a "new way" 04:06 < AceHigh> it's just that 04:06 < AceHigh> copying bitcoin 04:06 < fluffypony> that's not theoretical or interesting 04:06 < AceHigh> making a new one 04:06 < AceHigh> having no modification to it what so ever, apart from the mining function, so that the existing miners will have no affect on the new network 04:06 < AceHigh> and so that new miners can be developed 04:07 < AceHigh> that is quite literally it 04:07 < fluffypony> ok so it's Litecoin 04:07 < AceHigh> isn't litecoin modifies the consensus? 04:08 < AceHigh> one of the first script based miners, no? 04:08 < fluffypony> Litecoin is an exact copy of Bitcoin's code with only the mining algorithm changed 04:08 < fluffypony> from sha256 to scrypt 04:08 < AceHigh> yea 04:08 -!- eragmus [sid136308@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lgvesdaoadrlxzbl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijxwyxgobnnnxfzx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- TheoBrrrrCloud [sid344770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-biljqsmadjifryyk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- jbenet [sid17552@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gvpooyhuazdtubej] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- valwal_ [sid334773@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qvpxoxhtuwlhafap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- cannedprimates_ [sid16585@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-omfmvlhcaaezptdk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- stoffu [sid260213@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ttrsslrrlrptvwld] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 -!- aspect_ [sid151486@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gvcueqjlihbdeant] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:08 < AceHigh> so i want to keep it "asic friendly" 04:08 < AceHigh> as opposed to changing that 04:09 < AceHigh> and cool, you're actually right, it was done before 04:09 < AceHigh> i wanna do it again 04:09 < fluffypony> what algorithm do you want to use? 04:09 < AceHigh> with the "asic friendlyness" 04:09 < AceHigh> fluffypony i thought maybe just upping it to sha512? 04:10 < AceHigh> sadly low level math/dev/algo isn't something i'm dabbing in, more of a javascript guy myself 04:10 < fluffypony> going from sha256 to sha512 has already been done 04:10 < AceHigh> in btc? 04:11 < fluffypony> https://cryptorival.com/algorithms/sha512/ 04:11 < AceHigh> hey, i'm not going for "ultra original never been done before - one in a lifetime stunt" 04:11 < AceHigh> i just want to try something new... 04:11 < fluffypony> so you can see how it's neither innovative nor interesting 04:11 < AceHigh> is there any issue with sha512 ? 04:11 < fluffypony> and you should take your idea to some other channel 04:12 < AceHigh> fluffypony, well, thanks for judging something as uninteresting while i'm only trying to make it 04:12 < AceHigh> but sure... 04:12 < fluffypony> bye 04:12 < AceHigh> ok... 04:12 < AceHigh> thanks :) 04:13 -!- cannedprimates_ [sid16585@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teqefaxslkaiozga] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:13 -!- cannedprimates_ 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