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The security proofs further down do prove that there isn't another algorithm 05:46 < waxwing> makes sense, thanks 05:47 -!- IGHOR [~quassel@176.121.4.135] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:48 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.19] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:52 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52 -!- ddustin_ [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:52 -!- ddustin_ [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:53 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:02 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@185.44.144.185] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:04 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@2a02:587:623b:5d00:ac9b:cca1:4258:dfa9] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:06 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@185.44.144.176] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:08 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@185.44.144.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:09 < dr-orlovsky> andytosh1: are bulletproofs deterministic, i.e. for a given set of (value, blinding) only a single possible bulletproof exists? 06:09 -!- Guest23174 [~Waithamai@178.239.168.171] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:19 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:21 < andytosh1> dr-orlovsky: nope 06:24 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:24 < dr-orlovsky> ok, thank you. But am I right that given pedersen commitment it will be impossible to forge valid bulletproof if the original value is negative (i.e. was overflown)? 06:25 < andytosh1> correct, unless you can solve the discrete log problem 06:25 < andytosh1> or collide sha2 in a certain structured way 06:25 < dr-orlovsky> thank you 06:26 < dr-orlovsky> (or find a bug in bulletproof implementation) 06:30 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:36 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:41 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:01 -!- Kimi [~Kiminuo@141.98.103.76] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:08 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:13 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:25 -!- son0p [~son0p@181.136.122.143] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:40 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:44 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:53 -!- jadijadi [~jadi@151.240.81.163] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:56 -!- jadi [~jadi@178.131.26.196] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:01 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:02 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:16 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@185.44.144.184] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:16 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@unaffiliated/fkinglag] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@unaffiliated/fkinglag] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:17 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@185.44.144.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:17 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:22 < waxwing> nickler, i don't understand the equation just before section 2.3 (the discussion of why v=1 doesn't work),why is the argument to H_sig on the LHS only using R_1 and not also R_2 ? 08:24 < waxwing> i think i get that the effective nonce for each participant here is just b_1 R_i,1 or something like that, in this case, marked with a ^ in the text above, but i can't see how this eqn fits. 08:25 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:29 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:33 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:35 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:39 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:43 -!- jadijadi [~jadi@151.240.81.163] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:50 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@unaffiliated/fkinglag] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:51 < nickler> waxwing: because that's a typo in the paper (that we've fixed locally). There's another one in that section. We'll upload a new version in two weeks but I'm sending the current version to you via email now. 09:00 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@unaffiliated/fkinglag] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:02 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@unaffiliated/fkinglag] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:20 -!- fkinglag [~fkinglag@unaffiliated/fkinglag] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:42 < waxwing> nickler, received, thanks 09:58 -!- bildramer1 [~bildramer@185.44.144.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:05 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owbhwwurkgaoyfkw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:06 -!- spacedip [~jnsu@2601:647:5a01:6e90:1867:dfa4:1aca:b65c] has quit [] 10:14 -!- smartineng [~Icedove@88.135.18.171] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:14 -!- smartineng [~Icedove@88.135.18.171] has quit [Excess Flood] 10:20 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:27 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28 -!- bildramer [~bildramer@2a02:587:622f:c00:e8d2:1b67:8e62:9cee] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:46 -!- proofofkeags [~proofofke@205.209.28.54] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:48 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has quit [Quit: jonatack] 11:01 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:02 -!- sdaftuar [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:03 -!- sdaftuar [~sdaftuar@gateway/tor-sasl/sdaftuar] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:27 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:51 -!- laptop [~laptop@ppp-1-45.leed-a-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:34 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:27 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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