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ZZZzzz…] 14:36 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:46 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:54 < ariard> _aj_: i think a double-spend adversary can still partition mempool with a conflict on the y parent, so the REJECT should be (x, y+ancestors) 14:54 < ariard> so sounds to me a reverse-package relay, the final condition prevent this to degenerate as a mempool content probing vector 14:55 < ariard> wouldn't catch edge cases when you're supporting policy due to older/newer versions 14:55 < ariard> for a 0conf node/multiparty coinjoins, you might need to be more pro-active on the otubound tx-relay 14:56 < ariard> otherwise, it might take a while to resolve all the mempool conflict one-by-one across the network 14:56 < ariard> still sounds to me it's a re-invention of the old ideas of mempool-syncing 14:56 < ariard> and maybe there is a bandwidth consumption asymmetry for the REJECT responder 15:15 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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