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I thought that's been best practice for years. https://research.kudelskisecurity.com/2023/03/06/polynonce-a-tale-of-a-novel-ecdsa-attack-and-bitcoin-tears/ 12:23 < instagibbs> " We broke 762 unique wallets. All of these had a zero balance." 12:31 -!- schmidty_ is now known as schmidty 12:43 -!- dlb76_ is now known as dlb76 12:43 -!- dlb76 [~dlb76@eth0.darkblue.ch] has quit [Changing host] 12:43 -!- dlb76 [~dlb76@user/dlb76] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:39 -!- BlueMatt_ [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:39 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:04 -!- yanmaani1 [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:04 -!- yanmaani1 [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:10 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:18 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: BlueMatt_ 14:28 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@id-14990.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42 -!- p2plife_ [~p2plife@vps-46773dd2.vps.ovh.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44 -!- p2plife [~p2plife@vps-46773dd2.vps.ovh.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:14 -!- yanmaani1 [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:20 -!- yanmaani1 [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:37 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@user/dgenr8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:24 -!- dgenr8 [~dgenr8@user/dgenr8] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:33 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Quit: Quit] 20:33 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:56 -!- CryptoDavid [uid14990@id-14990.uxbridge.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:09 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:11 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:12 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:18 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@141.156.173.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:19 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@141.156.173.67] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:59 -!- split [~split@user/split] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:59 -!- split [~split@user/split] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:59 -!- mode/#bitcoin-wizards [+o split] by ChanServ 22:45 < ademan[m]> It definitely implies most people are using wallets with deterministic k generation, but whatever minority potentially isn't could also be using a good entropy source. I was mostly just curious if there is a case or application where deterministic wouldn't be desirable. 23:07 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:47 -!- javi404 [~quassel@c-73-1-238-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48 -!- javi404 [~quassel@c-73-1-238-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards --- Log closed Tue Mar 07 00:00:03 2023