--- Log opened Tue Mar 07 00:00:03 2023 00:57 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:21 -!- cold [~cold@user/cold] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:22 -!- cold [~cold@user/cold] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 01:50 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 02:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:24 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 04:33 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has left #bitcoin-wizards [Closing Window] 04:41 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:14 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:21 < andytoshi> ademan[m]: if you are doing an interactive multisignature, you can't generally use deterministic nonces 05:21 < andytoshi> then there are a few cases where it makes sense to tweak a deterministic nonce somehow.. 05:22 < andytoshi> one is to just mix randomness into the hash (this is a "synthetic nonce"), but still make sure that your key and the message are in the hash. this has all the benefits of synthetic nonces (except being able to verify the result given only the secret key) and protects against potential side-channel attacks 05:23 < andytoshi> another is to mix external randomness into the nonce. this is "anti-exfiltration", which can protect against a single compromised device 05:23 < andytoshi> another is to tweak the nonce with some commitment to data "sign-to-contract" 05:24 < andytoshi> another is to xor some data into the nonce "encrypting stuff to yourself in a signature, up to 32 bytes per sig". AFAIK nobody has ever found a real use case for this, but i want there to be one 05:36 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:23 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@188.170.75.69] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:31 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@user/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:32 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@user/nanotube] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:14 -!- fiatjaf [~fiatjaf@2804:296c:2103:1182:1ac0:4dff:fef3:df53] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:03 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:06 -!- javi404 [~quassel@c-73-1-238-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:08 -!- javi404 [~quassel@c-73-1-238-68.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:01 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:44 -!- pablomartin [~pablomart@185.169.233.48] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:50 -!- fiatjaf [~fiatjaf@2804:296c:2103:1182:1ac0:4dff:fef3:df53] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:44 -!- pablomartin [~pablomart@185.169.233.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:46 -!- pablomartin [~pablomart@185.169.235.159] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:03 -!- miod[m] [~miodmatri@2001:470:69fc:105::2:d219] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 12:41 -!- pablomartin [~pablomart@185.169.235.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:05 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 15:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:00 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:30 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:06 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:39 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:14 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:34 -!- tristan__ [~tristan_@122.50.206.26] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 21:30 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:01 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:16 -!- Saloframes [~Saloframe@user/Saloframes] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:16 -!- Saloframes [~Saloframe@user/Saloframes] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26 -!- Saloframes [~Saloframe@user/Saloframes] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:42 -!- Saloframes [~Saloframe@user/Saloframes] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:59 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards --- Log closed Wed Mar 08 00:00:04 2023