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09:27 < darosior> Answering stevenroose's question from yesterday if anyone's reading the logs in the future: BIP386 (tr() descriptor) specifies that if no tree of scripts is passed a NUMS (the hash of the internal key itself) is committed to. This is to make sure the key wasnt tweaked without the user's knowing.
09:27 < darosior> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0386.mediawiki#tr
09:30 < stevenroose> darosior: in that bip I only see tr(KEY) and tr(KEY, TREE), no tr(TREE)
09:30 < darosior> Oh i read too quickly your question
09:30 < stevenroose> Ah you're talking about the opposite if what I was asking
09:31 < darosior> Yeah
09:31 < stevenroose> with tr(KEY), you substitute TREE for hash(KEY)?
09:31 < darosior> Yeah to make sure no tree was committed to
09:32 < stevenroose> darosior: hmm, I'm not sure I understand how that works. Like aren't tweaks additive? If I'm the party that secretly tweaked your key, and you extra-tweak it with the hash of the key, can't I still use the tree tweak if I also know the hash of your pubkey?
09:32 < stevenroose> Or are you hashing the internal secret key?
09:34 < stevenroose> darosior: hmm, let me check but maybe rust-bitcoin actually commits to the zero hash in the case of no merkle root
09:35 < stevenroose> ah no scrap that, it does the same, doesn't add extra after the key commitment when there is no root
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12:56 < real_or_random> ademan[m]: perhaps. but you have to use some hash function, and tagged hashes are cheap, so why not tag.
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