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13:01 < stevenroose> Does the CTV proposal only propose adding the opcode to tapscript? Or also to v0 segwit p2wsh?
13:02 < stevenroose> In the case of a single CTV script vs a single 1-of-1 signature (pre-signing a tx f.e.), I suppose CTV in p2wsh would be the cheapest of all.
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13:03 < stevenroose> But in the case where CTV exists only in tapscript, would a single-leaf tapscript reveal + CTV be cheaper still than a taproot keyspend?
13:10 < stevenroose> jeremyrubin: ^ :)
13:12 < instagibbs> it's a NOP4 redefinition, works in all existing script contexts
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16:30 < roasbeef> stevenroose: imo it should be refreshed to go the tapleaf direction, I think it was noop4 initially as it was independent of taproot then, but hard to see a reason to do a top level noop when there's leaf versions or op success 
16:31 < roasbeef> I think there was an arg to re making it into an address format too 
16:31 < roasbeef> so like a new standard top level template
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17:30 < instagibbs> I think the idea was for "congestion control" mostly, saves you a inner pubkey+hash reveal.
17:30 < instagibbs> YMMV on importance
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17:44 < _aj_> was also so it could happen before taproot if taproot got delayed because it was complex while ctv could be sped up because it was simple, i think
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19:46 < stevenroose> instagibbs: I'm thinking about a congestion control-like structure too, if in p2wsh it wouldn't need a pubkey reveal, just the script with the template. seems the most succint way to do ctv
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19:47 < stevenroose> roasbeef: hmm, I only recall talks about a special address for APO to avoid user footguns, but IIRC consensus was that that was stupid anyway, cuz users don't write software and regular wallet software writers will never use APO
19:51 < _aj_> https://github.com/bitcoin-inquisition/bitcoin/pull/17/commits/624177f2f4eaa1b7513db55c85268aaaa4a669a3  -- a 34 byte scriptpubkey "[32B] CTV" would be standard per the current patchset, spendable with an empty scriptSig and no witness. can't get cheaper than that
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22:33 < ademan[m]> are v1 transactions still valid? would a v1 transaction with segwit v0 or segwit v1 be valid?
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