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08:04 < stevenroose> Do the math opcodes in Script work on 64-bit numbers, i.e. 8-byte pushes?
08:04 < darosior> stevenroose: no :)
08:05 < stevenroose> 32 bits?
08:07 < stevenroose> darosior: Burak's IDE seems to differentiate pushes and "numbers", but I don't see how that distinction can exist.
08:07 < stevenroose> "Error: this operation requires 2 valid number"
08:10 < darosior> Yes 32 bits signed integers. Though iirc Elements added 64-bits arithmetic opcodes in their latest soft fork
08:11 < darosior> https://github.com/ElementsProject/elements/blob/master/doc/tapscript_opcodes.md#new-opcodes-for-additional-functionality
08:11 < darosior> I don't know about Burak's IDE, but maybe it's trying to make it explicit that not all pushes are valid numbers? (minimal encoding)
08:14 < stevenroose> Those are tapscript opcodes only it seems. But hmm, I might be able to use them. Yeah the IDE might be off too
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08:18 < stevenroose> Ah I can't use tapscript I think because CHECKSIGFROMSTACK there is also schnorr
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08:49 < _aj_> stevenroose: why can't you use schnorr?
08:52 < stevenroose> _aj_: because I'm validating v0 bitcoin signatures in the Liquid script
08:53 < stevenroose> But I guess I want to support both v0 and v1 on the bitcoin side, so I will have to look in if I can encode a v1 sighash in liquid tapscript. Not sure if the tagged hashes get in the way or if I'll need to do any tweaking
08:56 < _aj_> stevenroose: ahh, makes sense
08:58 < stevenroose> Yeah it's unfortunate Liquid didnt' add CHECKECDSASIGFROMSTACK to tapscript :) @andytoshi sanket1729 
09:26 < andytoshi> lol. i guess it could be useful for validating bitcoin stuff..
09:26 < andytoshi> we should have simplicity Real Soon Now and you can implement ecdsa there
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17:53 < stevenroose> Is there a best practice for using a secret key that everyone knows? Is 0x0000...00001 bad? Like for CSFS covenants you just need to have a signature from any key just so you can enforce the sighash, right? 
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18:15 < sanket1729> Don't know if there is any best practice. For the old options using csfs based covenants, I used a random key and published the secret key in README
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19:24 < andytoshi> not really any best pracitce. with ECDSA there were some nagging efficiency questions where you could maybe cherry-pick a key that'd result in a smaller signature
19:25 < andytoshi> but with schnorr everything is fixed size
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19:25 < andytoshi> using 1 sounds good to me. the resulting key is very recognizable and easy to compute with
19:26 < andytoshi> using 1/2 is also good since it results in a key with a shitload of 0s in it, which is recognizably "weird" even if you don't know it. if you use the same value for your nonce, it's doubly-clear that you're doing something weird
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