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I've half convinced myself it's impossible, because without an extra round, the HW device can always grind the nonce to include whatever bits it wants. 17:21 < Ademan> extra round of communication* 17:29 -!- alive [~m-t2wsr5@hz.nixy.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30 -!- alive [~m-t2wsr5@hz.nixy.dk] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:55 -!- pablomartin4btc [~pablomart@201.216.219.92] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:58 -!- pablomartin4btc_ [~pablomart@194.35.122.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:03 -!- pablomartin [~pablomart@2800:40:2a:3d8:e4cc:bbae:fdb2:cda3] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:03 -!- pablomartin [~pablomart@2800:40:2a:3d8:e4cc:bbae:fdb2:cda3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05 -!- pablomartin4btc_ [~pablomart@194.35.122.80] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:07 -!- pablomartin4btc_ is now known as pablomartin 18:07 -!- pablomartin4btc [~pablomart@201.216.219.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:07 -!- pablomartin is now known as pablomartin4btc 18:07 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@37.19.200.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:14 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~Chris_Ste@146.70.211.100] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:39 < _aj_> Ademan: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2020-March/017667.html ? i think you're right that you need an extra round (sw -> hw -> sw -> hw -> sw; vs sw -> hw -> sw) 19:49 -!- tusko [~yeurt@user/tusko] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50 -!- tusko [~yeurt@user/tusko] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:24 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.254] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:25 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.254] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.254] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: ghost43_, tusko 20:51 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: tusko 21:46 -!- Ademan [~ademan@47.161.41.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:55 -!- pablomartin4btc [~pablomart@194.35.122.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:55 -!- Ademan_ [~ademan@47.161.41.51] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:02 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:02 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:03 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:16 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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