--- Log opened Fri Nov 03 00:00:14 2023 00:17 -!- Mercury [~root@31.125.90.17] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:25 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:28 -!- benwestgate [~BenWestga@2603-8080-74f0-5ac0-6d1b-489e-4a27-7411.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:35 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 00:42 -!- salvatoshi_ [~salvatosh@genymobile-2-6-86.fib.nerim.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:00 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:16 -!- benwestgate [~BenWestga@035-146-116-090.res.spectrum.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:58 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.170] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 05:58 -!- angusp [9e8eed9774@2604:bf00:561:2000::1048] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:01 -!- angusp [9e8eed9774@2604:bf00:561:2000::1048] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:16 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:39 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:40 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 06:44 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:00 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 07:08 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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I want to generate some test transactions and psbts for use in tests. Should I just generate them from signet? 08:29 < Ademan> I should have said utxo set not mempool, my brain is still booting this morning 09:34 -!- salvatoshi_ [~salvatosh@genymobile-2-6-86.fib.nerim.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:39 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:45 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:46 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:50 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:11 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:13 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:16 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:31 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 10:50 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:52 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:06 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 11:12 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:18 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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It *looks* like secp256k1_musig_nonce_gen() is deterministic, so (securely) storing the session id and extra_rand, etc would be sufficient. Does that sound reasonable? It doesn't *really* seem like I can 13:37 < Ademan> depend on secp256k1_musig_nonce_gen() remaining deterministic, and in fact https://github.com/BlockstreamResearch/secp256k1-zkp/issues/152 seems to want to change that... 13:58 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:02 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:31 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:36 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:39 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:46 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@mvx-177-92-76-170.mundivox.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:57 -!- Sullied_ [~Sullied@138.199.43.74] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 14:58 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:18 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:37 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 16:10 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:17 < fjahr> Ademan: Hi, I am working on it but haven't been able to release anything because I was blocked on other issues. I hope to change that soon though. I am also very interested in full-agg. 17:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: kanzure, darosior, yuanti, MatrixBot123 17:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: jonatack, DeanGuss 17:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: yuanti 17:00 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@nonplayercharacter.me] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 17:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: MatrixBot123, darosior, kanzure 17:01 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@user/deanguss] has changed host 17:06 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 18:46 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@S01060836c979f04c.vs.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@S01060836c979f04c.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 19:44 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.1.0] 19:58 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 20:19 < Ademan> fjahr: glad to hear! I think it's an important direction. 20:36 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.235] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:36 -!- tristan123 [~tristan_@120.88.40.188] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:39 -!- tristan_ [~tristan_@120.88.40.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:52 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:06 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:13 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:26 -!- tromp [~textual@92-110-219-57.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:56 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #bitcoin-wizards --- Log closed Sat Nov 04 00:00:15 2023