2015-05-10.log

--- Log opened Sun May 10 00:00:07 2015
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runeksi support changing the bitcoin price00:12
runeksbut i can't find the relevant lines in the source code...00:13
sipalol00:13
runekshehe :)00:13
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fluffyponyruneks: lines 507 - 51302:31
fluffyponyjust make sure not to use flaot02:31
fluffypony*float02:31
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dgenr8jgarzik: this may be dense, but i need help seeing why.  a specialized DHT would not replace bitcoin, but rather implement the permanent detail-transaction portion of the block storage database, and serve as a shared mempool. nodes such as miners could still cache local copies of whatever they needed.09:05
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dgenr8you might need two 'indexes' corresponding to mapTx (to support tx lookup) and mapNextTx (to support partitioning validation).  I don't know if this is possible with a DHT, other than by having two DHT's.09:21
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dgenr8Since inputs can be combined arbitrarily, a node might need to request history from the network to fully validate txes it is partailly responsible for.  maybe this could be mitigated by limiting the # of inputs.09:21
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afk11hi all. I'm trying explore the stratum protocol a bit, but a bit confused. for starters I sent some curl requests, but don't seem to get any response09:26
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afk11I notice that it has some element of long-polling in there, so curious what I'm missing09:26
fluffyponyafk11: #bitcoin-dev09:34
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lmatteisare there any academics around doing research in bitcoin? i'm looking for venues, journals, conferences that deal with bitcoin or p2p systems in general13:03
lmatteisi know there's this http://wan.poly.edu/p2p2015/index.html13:04
lmatteisalso this http://icdcs-2015.cse.ohio-state.edu/13:09
antanstlmatteis: also this http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/13:10
lmatteisare those indepndently published?13:11
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kanzuredepends on what you mean by published13:12
antanstit seems so...13:12
lmatteisweird how there isn't many conferences on p2p13:15
kanzurep2pfoundation covered a bunch of that, if that's what you're looking for13:16
lmatteisthere's just that IEEE one but it's rated fairely bad: http://103.1.187.206/core/668/13:16
lmatteisC is kind of low13:16
lmatteiskanzure: what do you mean 'they covered'?13:16
kanzuretheir wiki has a large list of p2p-related conferences13:16
lmatteisi'm looking for peer-reviewed journal/conferences/venus13:16
lmatteisnot just published pdf's on a sit13:16
lmatteis*site13:16
lmatteisah nice link?13:17
kanzuresounds very picky13:17
lmatteisah perhaps this http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Conferences13:18
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dgenr8rambling on...  a node that is validating part of the prevout space would broadcast an invalidation proof for a new block that it found to have an invalid input in its space; to preempt everybody having to ask, which they would do, absent such proof18:06
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dgenr8could non-supernodes rely on absence of such proofs for validation?  ramble ramble...18:19
midnightmagica.k.a. "I hope a validating archival node still exists out there somewhere."18:20
midnightmagicproof-of-storage tests could be used to identify such nodes; the combination together could be a systemic risk factor18:21
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dgenr8sybil would seem to be the risk. connection count will be higher than today if you want close conenctions to all parts of the space.  if you have only one connection, you ask him to relay everything to you.18:27
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phantomcircuitseeing weird addr responses22:11
phantomcircuit91ff:fe70*22:11
phantomcircuitstuff like that22:11
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phantomcircuitgmaxwell, any idea?22:19
frankenmintphantomcircuit: no relation??? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/35jcr9/block_355837_and_355839_no_transactions/22:30
phantomcircuitfrankenmint, no22:31
phantomcircuitnot related at all22:31
phantomcircuitprobably some weird fingerprinting attack or something22:31
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