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| instagibbs | http://www.falcon-net.org/papers/falcon-retreat-2016-05-17.pdf | 07:05 |
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| instagibbs | kanzure, do we have links on this ^ ? | 07:05 |
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| instagibbs | saw a weird version string on a node, found this via googling | 07:06 |
| kanzure | nope i have nothing | 07:07 |
| bsm117532 | You've used that word again "trust". I do not think it means what you think it means. | 07:09 |
| bsm117532 | http://www.falcon-net.org/ | 07:09 |
| instagibbs | oh wow, a schnazzy website | 07:10 |
| waxwing | looking at that makes me wonder who is the predator and who the prey | 07:10 |
| instagibbs | the FBRN has upgraded to a new version using UDP/FEC, wonder if it's still "orthogonal" | 07:11 |
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| instagibbs | their latency stats for their test network don't look amazing, but I'm not exactly an expert. | 07:22 |
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| adam3us | worm-hole routing is their main claim. | 09:09 |
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| sipa | when bandwidth is the limiting factor, using cut-through routing is certainly faster than the naive p2p pblock propagation bitcoin uses | 09:10 |
| sipa | unsure to what extent it will matter after bip152 | 09:10 |
| bsm1175321 | It's still a better network topology than Bitcoin's random one, so will likely still be an advantage even with BIP152. | 09:11 |
| sipa | right, but that's due to the fact that it is a curated network, not the protocol | 09:12 |
| sipa | it's more a competitor to the frbn than to bip152 | 09:12 |
| adam3us | sipa they claim advantage over FBRN | 09:12 |
| adam3us | sipa yes | 09:13 |
| sipa | they could even incorporate the relay network protocol in their system | 09:13 |
| adam3us | but i suppose it is relevant in the sense that the push to narrow the gap between latency optimised curated miner networks and bitcoin p2p network wormhole routing could be useful. | 09:15 |
| adam3us | fec and multi-source packet streaming might get the effect indirectly anyway though. | 09:15 |
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| sipa | to be clear, despite using the word 'competitor' i don't mean that i consider it a bad idea | 09:16 |
| adam3us | even a good thing for diversity | 09:16 |
| sipa | it's something we've wanted to do in bitcoin p2p for years afaik, but it's extremely hard to do in the networking code (and would be hard to prevent denial of service attacks) | 09:16 |
| sipa | i guess you'd split up blocks in small packets of a few kB each maybe, and give a partial merkle root for each | 09:17 |
| sipa | so they can all individually be verified | 09:17 |
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| instagibbs | I'd like to see the delta between their claimed benefits and just compression/reduce RTT strategies in bip152 | 09:26 |
| instagibbs | Though I'm guessing it's just "how long it takes to fully validate a block" per hop | 09:26 |
| runeks | Can anyone explain why Bitcoin Core refuses to accept this transaction, saying "64: non-mandatory-script-verify-flag (Locktime requirement not satisfied)"? | 09:27 |
| runeks | 0100000001056ab32aea70e55bb8b1e783c462df21ddc90409741b077591dfce87d8425cb0010000009b4730440220310f6d27466dfe2bd365c4b0a9fc78305f83679b08f98ed11368c790143c7f4b022005471fe3770ec5191e0ee44568292788a35e972bea935a8ddd928c2477ac201201004c50632103b5ad36dca793edf4664cd51b4d3fb41d35d0bd92c60f62ed08b2b55fdb2c5a6dad67048c7b5757b1756821038ea27103fb646a2cea9eca9080737e0b | 09:27 |
| runeks | 23640caaaef2853416c9b286b353313eacffffffff01905f0100000000001976a91475d715f9a84555e752772c9ad62be90b3b7bb88a88ac00000000 | 09:27 |
| runeks | Perhaps I should have pastebinned that...: http://pastebin.com/QbdBa4th | 09:28 |
| runeks | I've decoded the lockTime in the script to 1465351052 by hand, which should be more than 12 hours ago. | 09:28 |
| runeks | The redeemScript looks like this (copied from CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY BIP): http://pastebin.com/ckmC9iCC | 09:29 |
| sipa | did you also set nLockTime itself correctly? | 09:30 |
| runeks | sipa: The transaction itself has lockTime 0 and sequence 0xffffffff | 09:30 |
| runeks | sipa: Should I be doing that differently? | 09:30 |
| instagibbs | nlocktime must be set to at(or above?) the value in the redeemscript | 09:30 |
| runeks | Oh... | 09:31 |
| instagibbs | CLTV is literally checking nlocktime | 09:31 |
| instagibbs | not the block height | 09:31 |
| sipa | runeks: CLTV tests the *nLockTime* value, not the block time | 09:31 |
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| runeks | sipa: I don't understand. The lockTime I want checked is pushed onto the stack before executing OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY, no? | 09:32 |
| runeks | This is the redeemScript: http://pastebin.com/ckmC9iCC | 09:33 |
| sipa | runeks: yes, and OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY compares that value on the stack with the spending transaction's tx.nLockTime | 09:33 |
| runeks | sipa: Ok. So the spending transaction's lockTime must be equal to or greater than the lockTime in the script? | 09:33 |
| sipa | read the bip | 09:34 |
| runeks | sipa: Fair enough | 09:34 |
| instagibbs | haha, I guess I accidentally found the Falcon Relay before public announcement :) | 09:38 |
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