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| btcdrak | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/16/researchers_crack_homomorphic_encryption | 00:21 |
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| NewLiberty | Homomorphic always seemed like a trick with no pony. | 00:23 |
| NewLiberty | I could see how it could be useful for oracles, for zero knowledge multiparty computations, but there's no implementations. Now maybe there won't be. | 00:32 |
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| NewLiberty | Or at least need a new scheme for it, | 00:33 |
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| bsm117532 | btcdrak: any thoughts on whether this has any bearing on to more common homomorphisms of exponentiation and elliptic curve point addition? | 07:57 |
| bsm117532 | Those guys invented a new, and weird homomorphic encryption algorithm. | 07:57 |
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| maaku | Nothing in that article suggests an attack on homomorphic encryption itself, just the specific protocol. | 08:51 |
| maaku | I need to see the paper though. | 08:51 |
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| kanzure | "Signature Link Relation for Cryptographic Resource Verification" https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-palmer-signature-link-relation-00.txt | 10:32 |
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| maaku | having read the paper it seems to defeat the specific homomorphic encryption scheme proposed by Zhou and Wornell in 2014 | 10:46 |
| maaku | I have no idea how widely used that scheme is however. | 10:47 |
| maaku | It doesn't appear to be a weakness of pairing generally, but maybe I'm reading it wrong. Thoughts from andytoshi or gmaxwell would be appreciated | 10:47 |
| maaku | bsm117532: this seems more relevant https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1027 | 10:49 |
| andytoshi | the zhou/wornell scheme is not pairing-based but works by multiplying vectors by secret matrices with noise | 10:51 |
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| andytoshi | there are a lot of "this could be used for cloud" advertisements and tons of magic numbers in the original paper, i can't tell what security it's actually claiming | 10:54 |
| proslogion | yeah, but it's the sort of crypto paper people like me like to read :) | 10:55 |
| andytoshi | but it is not too surprising to see it's broken (i think the authors would even agree, given that it appears they took a ring-LWE encryption scheme with a statistical security proof, extended it from binary to arbitrary ring vectors, and dropped the proof..) | 10:55 |
| bsm117532 | maaku: Interesting...so they're using prime generating polynomials like n^2+n+41 (Euler) to optimize? I've been wondering if anyone was doing that, it only makes sense... | 10:56 |
| andytoshi | ...and it has absolutely nothing at all to do with EC point addition or pedersen commitments | 10:58 |
| proslogion | of coz.... | 10:58 |
| proslogion | i kinda wonder how did anyone who doesn't understand the difference between run of the mill HE and FHE hit upon that article... | 10:59 |
| waxwing | it was posted in theregister. surprised the headline didn't say "boffins crack encryption!" or something. | 11:01 |
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| kanzure | "Entropy Loss and Output Predictability in the Libgcrypt PRNG" http://formal.iti.kit.edu/~klebanov/pubs/libgcrypt-cve-2016-6313.pdf | 17:06 |
| kanzure | https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2016q3/000395.html | 17:06 |
| kanzure | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12314712 | 17:07 |
| kanzure | (above is re: CVE-2016-6313) | 17:07 |
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| Taek | sipa, andytoshi: do you have any good resources for learning probability? | 18:47 |
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| kanzure | i believe the typical procedure is "first you must strip in front of the bayesian ringleader and pledge your loyalty to volitional friendliness" | 18:51 |
| kanzure | ( http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=13156 ) (but really, don't click) | 18:53 |
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| cjd | there's probability, risk management and statistics which overlap but are not the same | 19:08 |
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| andytoshi | Taek: i have a book by rosenthal that i really like, if you know measure theory first | 19:22 |
| andytoshi | also the first chapter or two of that E T Jaynes book that eliezer yudkowsky likes, where he shows that you can derive the laws of probability from intuitive properties of "how confident am i that X will happen" | 19:23 |
| andytoshi | (but then put the book down, he starts rambling about how he doesn't believe in infinity then proceeds to spend hundreds of pages deriving things in a completely handicapped way so that he can avoid ever using infinities) | 19:24 |
| andytoshi | Taek: http://probability.ca/jeff/grprobbook.html is the rosethal book, if you think it looks good i can bring it to scaling bitcoin milan and lend it to you indefinitely | 19:25 |
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| cjd | there is no such thing as indefinitely | 19:50 |
| Taek | hehe there might be an exception when I'm borrowing something | 19:51 |
| Taek | (jk) | 19:51 |
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| Taek | andytoshi: I think I would appreciate having it | 19:52 |
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| andytoshi | cjd: i mean i'm going to give it to him but at some point in the far future act as though i have a right to demand it back :P | 19:56 |
| cjd | Inifinity... no such thing | 19:57 |
| cjd | ;) | 19:57 |
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| Taek | An Overview of BGP Hijacking: https://www.bishopfox.com/blog/2015/08/an-overview-of-bgp-hijacking/ | 23:33 |
| Taek | BGP Hijacking for Cryptocurrency Profit: https://www.secureworks.com/research/bgp-hijacking-for-cryptocurrency-profit | 23:34 |
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| Taek | An estimated $80,000 stolen in 2014 by performing BGP prefix hijacking to redirect traffic intended for a mining pool to a malicious server | 23:35 |
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