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| waxwing | gmaxwell: xiph.org's cert is signed by startcom, see http://www.percya.com/2016/09/wosigns-secret-purchase-of-startcom.html | 05:21 |
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| midnightmagic | :-( | 05:54 |
| midnightmagic | god dammit. | 05:54 |
| waxwing | well, not the end of the world for such a site :) and there is no "ultimate" solution to this stuff, but the wosign issue is something worth knowing about i guess. | 06:01 |
| proslogion | CHINA NUMBA ONE | 06:03 |
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| runeks | Does OP_CHECKSIG accept both compressed and uncompressed pubkeys? | 13:24 |
| sipa | yes | 13:25 |
| sipa | #bitcoin | 13:25 |
| runeks | Cool | 13:25 |
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| andytoshi | how do i learn about pairing crypto? what curves are out standardized, and by whom? algebraically, what is the pairing eqn used? etc etc | 16:01 |
| kanzure | pairing is described in http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/dan-boneh/ | 16:02 |
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| kanzure | "pairings in cryptography" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WDOpzxpnTE&list=PLgO7JBj821uGZTXEXBLckChu70kl7Celh&index=21 | 16:03 |
| andytoshi | thanks very much kanzure | 16:04 |
| katu | i found the thesis for pbc very good (even to understand basic EC as well) https://crypto.stanford.edu/pbc/thesis.html | 16:09 |
| katu | also the pbc implementation is fairly nice, considering its academia code. pairings over virtually all curves and fields in one library. | 16:09 |
| andytoshi | oh awesome, katu -- yeah, i've got PBC but i'm sorta poking at it blindly :) | 16:10 |
| katu | oh, dan boneh is this guys adviser :) small world. | 16:10 |
| andytoshi | i think he's also the L in BLS signatures which are one of the most common motivations for using pairings | 16:11 |
| andytoshi | (and dan is the B :) | 16:11 |
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| katu | dan is a bit too gung ho on speed. while bls is simple as a black box construct, safe supersingular curves are hell to implement. IMO BLS can't really compete on speed with schnorr, only compactness. | 16:18 |
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| andytoshi | agreed (tho dan and his students are doing a lot of research on improving speed, which i'm glad about). BLS sigs can also be aggregated and save even more space | 16:23 |
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| kanzure | andytoshi: https://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/simons-institute/pairing-cryptography/ | 21:16 |
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| andytoshi | oo, thanks kanzure. i actually listened all the way through this one (which is hard for me) | 22:15 |
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