--- Log opened Fri Jan 29 00:00:29 2021 00:37 < jungly> Thanks belcher. That makes sense. 00:37 < jungly> The next question: is anyone trying to do anything with the braidpool/payment channels for p2pool ideas? I read the discussion on bitcointalk, and saw that there was a lot of push back against the use of payments channels for p2pool. I must add, I personally think the use of schnorr signatures you described in the last post on the thread does make a lot of sense. 00:37 < jungly> BTW, your proposal there about hubs and smart contracts for payouts doesn't require the braidpool idea, right? 05:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: midnight 05:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: midnight 05:01 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 05:03 -!- midnight [~midnight@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #braidpool 05:04 -!- dante9[m] [dante9matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gqydxohvdqegwvaz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:32 -!- dante9[m] [dante9matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vpbiwecwvejohdxj] has joined #braidpool 05:44 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 05:48 -!- dante9[m] [dante9matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vpbiwecwvejohdxj] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:55 < belcher> jungly the pushback on bitcointalk was from idiots, dont worry about them 05:56 < belcher> yes lightning p2pool and braidpool are orthogonal, although it makes sense to use both techs in a potential p2pool reboot 06:11 < jungly> belcher, I saw Bob's python scripts to analyse braidpool. Apart from that is there any other effort in progress to experiment with or build on these ideas? 06:11 < belcher> not that im aware of 06:12 -!- dante9[m] [dante9matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tiowiurrexrtizul] has joined #braidpool 06:12 < jungly> right.. a blue ocean in bitcoin space.. very tempting to try and work on it 06:14 < belcher> you could try getting funding for it too, it seems a bunch of places a giving out money to developers and with the right marketting, background and proposal you could probably get some 06:22 < jungly> Nice to know that funding is possible. There are some problems to solve too. For example, if we were to use both ln p2pool and the braid ideas together, then how do we form the payout transaction. I think you alluded to a potential solve in the bitcointalk posts. I'll read them once again. 06:23 < belcher> i dont know 06:24 < belcher> once you come up with a list of numbers of how many bitcoins each hasher gets, then LN p2pool allows you to distribute those 06:42 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com] has joined #braidpool 06:42 -!- pigeons is now known as Guest30520 06:51 < jungly> you make it sound so simple! :) 06:51 < jungly> Re: transaction selection. You discussed the idea of estimating the miner fee. I imagine betterhash solves that problem, is that the thinking? 06:57 -!- Guest30520 is now known as pigeons 09:08 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-87-18-27-108.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:12 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-87-18-27-108.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #braidpool 12:28 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-87-18-27-108.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:09 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #braidpool 13:12 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:26 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 13:49 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-87-18-27-108.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #braidpool 15:28 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-87-18-27-108.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:33 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #braidpool 16:34 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:38 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher --- Log closed Sat Jan 30 00:00:30 2021