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00:02 < danielh> Is there a way I can view if my channels has been used by anyone else?
00:10 < p3tr> maybe you could check the balance - if someone used it and you have set some fee then it should be larger i think
00:22 < danielh> yeah it's what I figured as well
00:22 < danielh> was curious if this was the current way of doing it
00:29 < windsok> there must be a log message you can grep for, I've not figure out what it is though
00:34 < danielh> yeah I'll look though the code maybe I can find it
00:35 < danielh> btw, does anyone know if a channel can be used for a partly payment? Lets say someone wants to make a big payment that no channel can fund, can the payment be settled using more than 1 channel?
01:09 < p3tr> does anyone know if there is a limit to the size of the description of a ln payment?
01:09 < p3tr> i mean, there is probably a limit, but what is it?
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01:48 < bloxton> Hi!  I've setup a c-lightning node on mainnet, but I believe that it is still trying to use funds that were in my wallet from when I was on testnet3.
01:49 < p3tr> And is the bitcoin node also switched to mainnet?
01:50 < bloxton> Yep.  bitcoind is running on mainnet and fully sync'ed.
01:50 < bloxton> I started lightningd with the -bitcoin option.
01:51 < bloxton> But listfunds still seemed to show a balance from my testnet activities.
01:51 < bloxton> I've since tried to fund a channel and I think things are a bit confused.
02:17 < bloxton> Alternately, can anyone tell me how to get the private key associated with the addresses created by "lightning-cli newaddr"?
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03:17 < justus> "first peer not ready: WIRE_UNKNOWN_NEXT_PEER" what is my first peer doing? :)
03:18 < justus> anything i can do about it or do i have to find a new peer?
03:19 < justus> by opening a new channel
03:26 < justus> but I can find a route for the payment.
04:03 < p3tr> i have the exact same problem justus 
04:05 < p3tr> i had a channel with peer (call it P) but closed it... when i'm trying to pay someone else (say X), the route from me to X has P as the first hop
04:05 < p3tr> and obviously the payment fails
04:05 < p3tr> i think i saw a bug opened about this (selecting a route through a channel that is not in normal state)
04:06 < p3tr> so hoping it will get fixed soon if thats the culprit (and it seems to me it is)
04:11 < justus> ok, thanks. i'll try opening a new channel :)
04:26 < p3tr> let me know if that helps please, might try that once i get home from work
04:35 < newbold> whenever I launch c-lightning, it always fetches a ton of recent blocks
04:35 < newbold> is this normal?
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04:41 < pitrucha> do i need btc node to run lighting?
04:43 < newbold> It's intended to work that way
04:43 < newbold> but I believe there's an SPV node thing that can be made to work with it, somehow... but if you can, running a full node is ideal!
04:45 < pitrucha> damn
04:46 < pitrucha> it will take  me few weeks to download it ;/
04:46 < newbold> are you sure? the changes made in 0.15.1 make syncing pretty fast
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04:47 < newbold> as long as you don't have any restrictions on bandwidth, you could have a full node synced up in a few hours
04:47 < newbold> I went from nothing to full node overnight :)
04:47 < pitrucha> hmm     
04:48 < pitrucha> im almost sure i have 15.1
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05:17 < pitrucha> progress increase every hour :0.24 %
05:18 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] practicalswift closed pull request #710: Rename CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN to CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCK_IN to make it clear we're not "awaiting locking" (master...CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCK_IN) https://git.io/vN2NV
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06:18 < stumpy-de> good morning! Does anyone know how I can set my URI so others can connect to me in https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/?
06:18 < stumpy-de> right now it's 'unknown'
06:20 < newbold> I've been wondering the same
06:20 < newbold> figured out how to do the alias and the color but not the uri
06:20 < newbold> you don't happen to be an expert on the mechanics of LN and how to retrieve lost funds, by any chance? :)
06:20 < stumpy-de> no, sorry :(
06:20 < newbold> hehe it's ok
06:21 < stumpy-de> I just did my first mainnet payment 5 mins ago
06:21 < newbold> nice, did it go smoothly?
06:21 < newbold> (mine didn't, obviously, lol)
06:21 < stumpy-de> aw :( yeah, 1020 satoshis for a multi-hop payment, confirmed in less than 4 seconds
06:23 < newbold> beautiful
06:24 < provoostenator> stumpy-de: there's a command-line option to tell clightingd your IP address, that should be sufficient for that explorer.
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06:26 < stumpy-de> provoostenator: do you happen to know what the command is? I'm not seeing it in the README
06:26 < provoostenator> lightningd --help
06:26 < provoostenator> (I don't have it here)
06:27 < newbold> I wonder if maybe I didn't lose any coins after all
06:28 < newbold> I see my closed channel tx on the blockchain... I just have no idea where those coins actually are right now
06:28 < newbold> do they go back into the LN wallet? I don't see it when I do listfunds
06:33 < justus> p3tr: I just opened a new channel with SLEEPYARK and got it working.
06:38 < stumpy-de> provoostenator didn't see it in the help command, I tried --externalip and --external-ip to no avail. Going to grep the whole package for it now
06:39 < provoostenator> newbold: they should go back into the lighting wallet and after confirmation show up with: lightning-cli listfunds 
06:39 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] practicalswift opened pull request #787: Usability: Prefix logging to stdout with ISO 8601 formatted date and time in UTC (master...prefix-logging-to-stdout-with-zulu-time) https://git.io/vNXwb
06:39 < provoostenator> stumpy-de: --ipaddr=
06:40 < stumpy-de> thank you!
06:41 < newbold> provoostenator, yeah, that's what I was thinking... but mine went to some addr in a tx with only one output and I don't appear to control that addr
06:41 < newbold> it's weird
06:41 < stumpy-de> alias is --alias=XXX right?
06:41 < newbold> cdecker: if you're around, instagibbs on Slack told me I should run my situation by you :)
06:48 < p3tr> closed gracefully? if you want them back to your bitcoin wallet i think you want to run withdraw command
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06:50 < newbold> p3tr: not sure what defines 'graceful' in LN but I closed it manually after my payment repeatedly failed and I gave up
06:51 < newbold> so it went into some kind of closing state for around a day, which I guess is normal
06:51 < newbold> but now it's stuck in a ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL state
06:51 < newbold> and listfunds doesn't show those funds, only the difference between what I funded my LN wallet with and what I sent to the channel
06:55 < p3tr> i too have two channels in that state since today morning
06:56 < p3tr> though my listfunds does show those balances
06:59 < p3tr> at least the sum of listfunds + funds in open channel + funds in my btc wallet are what i had when i began playing with this :D
07:07 < newbold> if my listfunds showed the missing balance, I'd be thrilled :)
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08:14 < newbold> hey alexann, get things working?
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08:53 < HPrivakos> Hey!
08:54 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker closed pull request #784: channeld: don't spam with all our attempts to commit. (master...reduce-log-spam) https://git.io/vNPQN
08:56 < newbold> hi HPrivakos 
08:57 < HPrivakos> I've opened a channel to the node nammed Bitrefill on http://lnmainnet.gaben.win/, but I'm not able to sent any transactions, I opened another channel to Yalls and this channel is working, any idea of why the first one isn't working?
08:57 < newbold> HPrivakos: what's the output of lightning-cli listpeers?
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09:01 < HPrivakos> https://pastebin.com/raw/LDti1tz5
09:02 < newbold> ok, that looks cool. when you do the pay command to bitrefill, what's the response?
09:04 < HPrivakos> "Could not find a route"
09:06 < HPrivakos> Is the "real" bitrefill node offline and someone "usurping" bitrefill ?
09:06 < newbold> That could be the case. It's kind of the wild west out there
09:06 < newbold> Have you tried to do the route manually?
09:07 < HPrivakos> Humm, how can I do that?
09:07 < newbold> ok, you have the big long BOLT11 payment code right?
09:07 < newbold> (for bitrefill)
09:08 < HPrivakos> Yeah
09:08 < newbold> do: lightning-cli decodepay [bolt11 string]
09:08 < newbold> the response will include a 'payee' value
09:08 < HPrivakos> Yeah, got it
09:08 < newbold> then you do lightning-cli getroute [payee]
09:09 < HPrivakos> cli/lightning-cli getroute 03fdefe424b480b7d8f1a0b3dcb20f637ee56f330ee311402ad37049ebebce03f1 15000000 1.0
09:09 < newbold> yeah, forgot about those other two values
09:09 < newbold> hopefully you get a good response to that
09:09 < HPrivakos> Same reponse as the pay command
09:09 < newbold> ah, hmmm
09:09 < newbold> weird...
09:09 < HPrivakos> Can you try on your side to see if the problem is from my node?
09:10 < newbold> well, that's pretty much the extent of my (terrible, crappy, limited) knowledge
09:10 < newbold> my node is broken :(
09:10 < newbold> I've got some lost funds so I'm waiting to try to resolve that before I add any more, and all I have left is dust (not enough to open any channels, heh)
09:10 < newbold> otherwise I'd gladly try
09:11 < HPrivakos> Hmm, ok, thanks
09:11 < HPrivakos> If I close a channel, do I get my funds back?
09:11 < newbold> lol, that's exactly where my stuff went bonkers
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09:12 < newbold> my payment to the blockstream store failed, so I eventually gave up and closed the channel. And then my funds vanished :(
09:12 < newbold> In theory, yes, when you close your channel your coins should be returned to your lightning wallet within 144 blocks (roughly 24 hours)
09:13 < newbold> and evidently this is how it works for most folks. I just wasn't one of them :P
09:13 < HPrivakos> Hmm, Can I send the fund from my second channel to my first one before close it?
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09:14 < newbold> Good question... I'm pretty clueless about the mechanics of how that would work, but it'd be cool if you could
09:15 < mlz> HPrivakos, if your first channel issue an invoice and your second channel can pay it, sure
09:16 < mlz> issues*
09:16 < mlz> folks, this is why you should be on Testnet right now and not Mainnet.. right newbold ?  :D
09:16 < newbold> mlz: heh without a doubt
09:17 < newbold> I got sucked into the excitement. And wanted stickers. :P
09:20 < alexann> hi newbold, thanks for asking but I got stuck compiling the bitcoind yesterday :( 
09:20 < alexann> i followed this guide: 
09:20 < alexann> https://gist.github.com/kostaz/19729e6d53adc5d1606c
09:21 < alexann> got stuck with the "Download and compile Berkley DB 4.8"
09:22 < alexann> also libqt5core5 shows that it's here, but when i run this comand 
09:22 < alexann> sudo apt-get install libqt5gui5 libqt5core5 libqt5dbus5 qttools5-dev qttools5-dev-tools libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler
09:22 < alexann> tells me that it's missing ... 
09:23 < alexann> do you have an easy way like with the lightning :))) can't believe i wasted so much time on that, and you helped me to do it in less than 10minutes :)) 
09:26 < newbold> heh     
09:26 < newbold> as a matter of fact, I do have an easy way :)
09:26 < newbold> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
09:27 < alexann> i think Kali linux doesn't like this command 
09:27 < newbold> you'll see a weird message about "No longer supports precise" but you can just ignore that and press enter
09:27 < newbold> ohh     
09:27 < newbold> I assumed you were on Ubuntu, sorry
09:27 < alexann> Error: could not find a distribution template for Kali/kali-rolling
09:28 < newbold> yeah, it's an ubuntu/debian only thing I believe
09:28 < newbold> no big deal
09:28 < alexann> i can add it manually in sources.list if you know the correct path
09:28 < newbold> oh     
09:28 < newbold> is kali based on debian?
09:28 < alexann> yes     
09:28 < newbold> ok cool! check out https://launchpad.net/~bitcoin/+archive/ubuntu/bitcoin
09:29 < newbold> then expand the little green text that says "Technical details about this PPA"
09:29 < newbold> oh wait, hmm, that might not actually help
09:29 < HPrivakos> Try: apt-get install libdb5.3++-dev libdb5.3-dev
09:29 < newbold> yeah what HPrivakos said :P
09:29 < HPrivakos> then ./configure  --with-incompatible-bdb
09:29 < HPrivakos> I used that to build my btc node on debian 9
09:30 < alexann> tells me that I ahve the latest versions of all these
09:31 < HPrivakos> So it should work
09:31 < alexann> ok, seems ./configure is doing something :) i'll see in a sec.
09:31 < HPrivakos> rerun ./autogen.sh then ./configure --with-incompatible-bdb
09:32 < alexann> this's what i got at the end 
09:32 < alexann> onfigure: WARNING: libprotobuf not found; bitcoin-qt frontend will not be built
09:32 < alexann> checking for EVENT... no
09:32 < alexann> configure: error: libevent not found.
09:32 < alexann> by running the " ./configure  --with-incompatible-bdb "
09:33 < HPrivakos> apt-get install libevent-dev
09:33 < HPrivakos> then configure again
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09:37 < alexann> got this now when i run ./configure 
09:37 < alexann> onfigure: error: Found Berkeley DB other than 4.8, required for portable wallets (--with-incompatible-bdb to ignore or --disable-wallet to disable wallet functionality)
09:38 < HPrivakos> You runned it without --with-incompatible-bdb
09:38 < HPrivakos> run ./configure --with-incompatible-bdb
09:38 < HPrivakos> then make -j
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09:38 < alexann> oh yes,sorry about that .. 
09:40 < alexann> i THINK it
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09:40 < alexann> 's done :) 
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09:41 < provoostenator> I'm getting WIRE_FINAL_INCORRECT_CLTV_EXPIRY on testnet
09:41 < provoostenator> Using jb55's bech32 branch. Don't know if that's related.
09:42 < alexann> what's the aprametar to run it on mainnet and open the lightning ports? 
09:42 < jb55> unlikely
09:43 < provoostenator> Mmm, more likely cause is that bitcoind died
09:43 < provoostenator> I accidentally killed it :-)
09:49 < jb55> --devops199
09:53 < provoostenator> Yeah, now I'm just getting "could not find a route" even though I'm conencted to the yalls node, but I'll try connecting to some other nodes.
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09:56 < duke_Atriedes> @alexann cd into /lighting; then type: lightningd/lightningd --network=bitcoin --rgb=ff00ff --alias =Your_Alias --ipaddr=Your_Public_IP --port=9735 --log-level=debug
09:57 < duke_Atriedes> @alexann also make sure to go into your router and port forward 9735
09:59 < provoostenator> Is there any way to find the raw funding transaction if the bitcoind node can't find it?
10:00 < HPrivakos> @provoostenator There is a yalls node? I though there was a node for each owner of the article
10:00 < provoostenator> HPrivakos: 033a743ab6e0a464ef5ee187d4fde82af01b737cc8e06a4a1beaa09144c445b87a@45.77.115.33
10:01 < provoostenator> Same for all articles
10:01 < provoostenator> I assume they then forward payments to the author's node, but I never tried that.
10:01 < HPrivakos> https://mainnet.yalls.org/articles/97d67df1-d721-417d-a6c0-11d793739be9:0965AC5E-56CD-4870-9041-E69616660E6F/e5cdff0f-3c9f-4069-af36-8c5cddd9108e
10:02 < provoostenator> That was a testnet node.
10:02 < HPrivakos> 02eccebd9ed98f6d267080a58194dbe554a2b33d976eb95bb7c116d00fd64c4a13@45.77.7.202 for this one
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10:03 < HPrivakos> That's not a testnet node, look on gaben.win
10:03 < provoostenator> The one I shared was a testnet node, you shared the production node
10:04 < HPrivakos> Oh, yeah
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10:09 < cdb> anyone have any idea if/when https://lnmainnet.gaben.win refreshes its data? i started a node this morning and since then have stopped/restarted several times adjusting flags like alias/rgb/ipaddr but none of the changes have been reflected in the viz (node values are all the same as they were on first run)
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10:11 < duke_Atriedes> @cdb have you opened a channel with anyone yet? you wont show up until 6 confirmations after you fund a channel with an existing node
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10:16 < cdb> yea, i have
10:16 < cdb> i guess maybe i need to fund a new channel?
10:19 < HPrivakos> is someone able to find a route to bitrefill?
10:19 < duke_Atriedes> @cdb what does your listpeers look like?
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10:34 < cdb> huh, so it finally updated after running lightning-cli connect again (to same peer as before). this seemed necessary b/c getpeers returned connected: false (thx for the idea to check that). i guess i incorrectly assumed the peer connection was auto-resumed when the node restarted. 
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10:49 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker opened pull request #789: opts: Declare --port to be an early arg (master...issue-760) https://git.io/vN1l0
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11:06 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker opened pull request #791: Miscellaneous cleanups (master...cleanups-01) https://git.io/vN14p
11:12 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] lvaccaro opened pull request #792: Explain table vars (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vN1B1
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11:41 < duke_Atriedes> Has anyone seen an explanation on properly closing channels?
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12:19 < cdb> no, and i've been looking today. closest thing i've found was step 8 here: https://interfect.github.io/#!/posts/009-Ride-the-Lightning.md
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12:21 < mn3monic> hi, I'm stuck with this bug: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/749 (Lightningd isn't keeping up with block height of bitcoind). I've put a bunch of logs around in the code, but I can not find where it stops, any suggestions?
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12:23 < Packman> Hello everyone. Do any of you know more about the C-lightning fatal errors? 
12:31 < alexann> guys I'm giving up with this Kali linux ... which version of Ubuntu do you recommend for running bitcoind and lightning ?? 
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12:34 < alexann> newbold, 
12:34 < alexann> duke_Atriedes,
12:34 < alexann> HPrivakos,
12:34 < alexann> don     
12:35 < alexann> don't know how to tag you at once guys sorry 
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12:58 < duke_Atriedes> @alexann I run stock ubuntu 16.04 server and desktop versions and never had issues. It's all debian underneath though I'm not sure if  thats your issue
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14:38 < peterm> re     
14:39 < peterm> anyone knows how I can see what paymeents passed by my node?
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15:56 < bloxton> Hi all.  I'm running on mainnet and I tried to fund a channel with a peer.  It looks like c-lightning has tried to fund it using BTC from testnet as they were still in my lightning wallet.  As such the tx is invalid and not showing up in the mainnet mempool.  The peer is in a state of CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN.  Any idea how I can shut this down gracefully?
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16:11 < bloxton> Just realised that I've got the same problem as described in issue #678: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/678
16:13 < bloxton> Anybody have any luck dumping the private keys generated by the newaddr command?
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18:27 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] rustyrussell closed pull request #791: Miscellaneous cleanups (master...cleanups-01) https://git.io/vN14p
18:44 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] ZmnSCPxj opened pull request #797: Properly comply with Error Objects of JSON-RPC 2.0 (master...jsonrpc2-error-objects) https://git.io/vNMtn
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19:00 < nothingmuch> i have a c-lightning node, i'm trying to buy a shill sticker, and i have channel stuck in CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN to the payment destination node, which I believe is causing the the payment to fail with "Could not find a route". how can i examine the funding txn? the corresponding listpayments entry has "status": "failed", and unfortunately i restarted the node and didn't save the debug log 
19:00 < nothingmuch> before shutting it down
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19:30 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] RvMp opened pull request #798: Channel state explanation (master...master) https://git.io/vNMmh
19:31 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] RvMp closed pull request #798: Channel state explanation (master...master) https://git.io/vNMmh
19:34 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] RvMp opened pull request #799: States explained for Readme.md (master...master) https://git.io/vNMYk
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20:20 < newbold> nothingmuch: do listpeers
20:20 < newbold> nothingmuch: you should see a 'funding_txid' value in there
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21:23 < ianthius> bloxton: they aren't stored anywhere. As far as i can tell they are procedurally generated using the HSM secret
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22:21 < peterm> anyone, knows more about invoices and payments?
22:22 < peterm> getroute shows me a direct route, I can make an invoice, but if I apy this, it tells me: "Could not find a route"
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22:57 < aryseralin> any idea if there's something up with the blockstream node? i'm running lnd and getting spammed this block of messages. the channel active state keeps flipping between true and false and i can't close the channel. other channels have been closing fine and no other errors other than with the blockstream node. https://pastebin.com/Rc8d6aHk
23:07 < nothingmuch> aryseralin: i am too and peterm joined, asked the same and left I just noticed
23:07 < nothingmuch> i think it is their node, i can't buy my sticker either ;_;
23:08 < aryseralin> already bought mine, just want to close the channel and move hosts :)
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23:55 < cubancorona> hey, all -- in lightningd what causes channel to transition from CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN to CHANNELD_NORMAL?
23:56 < cubancorona> from spec and code looks like it's waiting for funding_locked msg