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01:54 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #1048: lightningd: expose internal error information. (master...expose-internal-error) https://git.io/vABhr
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01:58 < straumat> Hi. I'm a Java developer and I wrote applications like https://github.com/straumat/blockchain2graph and I also own a company named Scub with 45 Java developers. I would like to know if you have an idea of a project (open source) I could create to help your project and ln ? A java API ? A telegram Bot ? A independant neo4J database of ln nodes/channels  ? Any idea or feature you would like ?
02:00 < bitonic-cjp> Java? Can you make things for Android?
02:00 < straumat> Nope ... i'm more backend sorry :(
02:08 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #1050: log: fix ltmp crash. (master...pr-943) https://git.io/vABjd
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02:27 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] rustyrussell opened pull request #1051: lightningd: fix crash when htlc failed and source is onchain. (master...pr-821) https://git.io/vARfA
03:04 < p3tr> it seems to me that unilateral channel close has some problems - this is the third time i had to manually do dev-sign-last-tx to finally be able to close a channel that was in state CHANNELD_SHUTTING_DOWN for several days
03:04 < p3tr> is this a known issue?
03:06 < p3tr> it seems that the closing tx simply never hits the blockchain unless i do it manually (sendrawtransaction with the tx i get from c-lightning dev-sign-last-tx)
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03:51 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] practicalswift opened pull request #1053: Make sure msatoshi and sender are not uninitialized when calling channel_add_htlc(...) (master...msatoshi) https://git.io/vAROm
03:56 <@cdecker> p3tr, what version are you running? We had a bug a few weeks ago that was blocking our bitcoind calls, which is also used to send TXs to the blockchain
03:57 <@cdecker> It has since been fixed
03:58 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vAROj
03:58 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master 4aeebe8 Rusty Russell: log: fix ltmp crash....
04:06 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vARsI
04:06 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master 6bacab5 practicalswift: Fix typos
04:15 < p3tr> cdecker: um, not sure exactly i think the last update i did was about a week ago
04:15 < p3tr> ok i just updated to latest rev, will check whether the issue still exists once i get to it in the evening
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09:06 < mlz> how can we close channels that keep having "state" : "CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN", ? 
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09:37 < provoostenator> mlz any luck with dev-fail?
09:37 < mlz> provoostenator, i'm reading up on github issues ... but how do you use dev-fail?
09:38 < provoostenator> lightning-cli dev-fail [node_id]
09:38 < provoostenator> You may or may not lose your money.
09:44 < grubles> maybe dev-rescan-outputs
09:44 < grubles> your c-lightning might be behind bitcoind
09:44 < grubles> so maybe shut down then restart
09:46 < mlz> provoostenator, it seems working.. but weird that i did it on the receiving node (the node that had channels opened to by other nodes) and now it still says "state" : "CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN"  but the other nodes say  "state" : "ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL", 
09:46 < mlz> provoostenator, thank you :) 
09:47 < mlz> i also restarted that node, now restarting again
09:49 < mlz> still saying  "state" : "ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL",  
09:49 < mlz> i'm wondering if it's because this is on WSL Ubuntu and the port isn't opened?
09:49 < mlz> my other two nodes are on VPS servers and don't have this problem
09:50 < grubles> how do you network your lightning instances on your VPS
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09:50 < grubles> specifically, do you run bitcoind on them?
09:56 < mlz> yup     
09:56 < mlz> for both c-lightning and lnd on testnet
09:56 < mlz> i guess i can do the same for mainnet but i'm not sure about c-lightning yet 
09:57 < mlz> i have to change the port because they all use port 9735 
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10:00 < grubles> ah ok so storage isn't that expensive then
10:00 < grubles> since testnet is much smaller 
10:03 < provoostenator> mlz: ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL takes 144 blocks to complete; your node broadcast that transaction and then the other node has 144 blocks to claim all the funds if you cheated. Only then does your node sweep its funds.
10:04 < provoostenator> Although even in that case I've seen ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL stick around longer, but at least you shoudl be able to open a new channel.
10:13 < mlz> oh.. i see
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10:52 < cluelessperson> so in clightning
10:52 < cluelessperson> --bitcoin-datadir <arg>      -datadir arg for bitcoin-cli
10:52 < cluelessperson> what does this mean?
10:52 < cluelessperson> datadir for bitcoin-cli ?
10:52 < cluelessperson> bitcoind's datadir is where blocks are stored.
10:53 < cluelessperson> bitcoin-cli is a binary
10:53 < cluelessperson> that's nonsensical terminology
10:54 < cluelessperson> ---     
10:54 < cluelessperson> Also, does lightningd need a different datadirecotry for mainnet versus testnet?
10:54 < cluelessperson> or does it place a new testnet datadir inside the mainnet datadir, like bitcoind?
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10:56 < vogelito> how long does it take for lightningd to see the funding transaction?
10:56 < grubles> lightningd needs bitcoin-cli to communicate with bitcoind
10:57 < cluelessperson> grubles: so, what does bitcoin-datadir mean?
10:57 < cluelessperson> why not just ask for   "bitcoin-cli-binary" path
10:57 < grubles> yeah i suppose it could be worded more clearly
10:58 < cluelessperson> --rpc-file <arg>             Set JSON-RPC socket (or /dev/tty) (default: "lightning-rpc")
10:58 < cluelessperson> ???     
10:58 < cluelessperson> grubles: I don't mean to be a dick.  I'm just very upfront and I like things clear :P
10:58 < cluelessperson> I'm good at knowing what users need to see
10:58 < cluelessperson> (usually)
10:58 < vogelito> root@c-lightning:/home/ubuntu# runuser -l bitcoin -c '/home/ubuntu/builds/lightning/cli/lightning-cli newaddr'
10:58 < vogelito> { "address" : "37dAhm4cizrtKRChg5GbtRvRsGYFsZ1vha" }
10:58 < vogelito> https://blockchain.info/address/37dAhm4cizrtKRChg5GbtRvRsGYFsZ1vha
10:59 < vogelito> root@c-lightning:/home/ubuntu# runuser -l bitcoin -c '/home/ubuntu/builds/lightning/cli/lightning-cli listfunds'
10:59 < vogelito> { "outputs" : 
10:59 < vogelito> 	[  ], "channels" : 
10:59 < vogelito> 	[  ] }
10:59 < cluelessperson> vogelito: Use a pastebin
10:59 < grubles> cluelessperson, haha no i don't think you're being a dick
10:59 < vogelito> will do @cluelessperson
11:00 < fafaynk> hi all, i have a problem with my lightningd, log is here http://pasted.co/e6cfdd6e
11:00 < fafaynk> please help
11:01 < cluelessperson> fafaynk: what problem
11:01 < fafaynk> process kills itself
11:01 < fafaynk> last log message is lightningd: lightning_gossipd failed (signal 14), exiting.
11:04 < fafaynk> anybody can help?
11:04 < fafaynk> lightning_channeld(30): STATUS_FAIL_GOSSIP_IO: Can't read command: Success lightningd(1): peer 03dbd26bedb44490bfbf19c876f41c4561e3c650517a6c6ba77cb5e581b0b886b8: Peer transient failure in CHANNELD_NORMAL: Owning subdaemon lightning_channeld died (33280)
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11:14 < cluelessperson> --bitcoin-datadir <arg>      -datadir arg for bitcoin-cli
11:14 < cluelessperson> --rpc-file <arg>             Set JSON-RPC socket (or /dev/tty) (default: "lightning-rpc")
11:14 < cluelessperson> can anyone tell me what these are?
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11:28 < cluelessperson> ...     
11:28 < cluelessperson> Why is clightning communicating with bitcoind using bitcoin-cli and NOT through the RPC interface?
11:40 < cluelessperson> lightningd(1805): bitcoin-cli exec failed: No such file or directory
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11:59 < mlz> cluelessperson, what are you trying to do?
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12:05 < cluelessperson> mlz: setup clightning on mainnet with bitcoind
12:06 < cluelessperson> mlz: but, I *properly* setup bitcoind to use a conf from  /etc/bitcoin/bitcoin-mainnet.conf, datadir /var/bitcoin/bitcoind/data/    
12:06 < cluelessperson> mlz: and bitcoin-cli is located at.   /var/bitcoin/bitcoind/source/bitcoin/src/bitcoin-cli
12:06 < cluelessperson> clightning can't seem to find the bitcoin-cli exe
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12:07 < cluelessperson> which, is confusing, because bitcoind uses a RPC interface to communicate
12:07 < mlz> why would c-lighting have to find bitcoin-cli?
12:07 < mlz> you have bitcoin fullnode to run, and then you set up lightningd to run
12:08 < cluelessperson> from clightning's logs
12:08 < cluelessperson> bitcoin-cli exec failed: No such file or directory
12:08 < mlz> and you use c-lightning rpc calls to create channels
12:08 < cluelessperson> /var/bitcoin/lightningd/source/daemon# ./lightningd --lightning-dir /var/bitcoin/lightningd/mainnet_datadir/
12:08 < cluelessperson> --bitcoin-datadir <arg>      -datadir arg for bitcoin-cli
12:08 < cluelessperson> --rpc-file <arg>             Set JSON-RPC socket (or /dev/tty) (default: "lightning-rpc")
12:08 < cluelessperson> from the help. :/
12:09 < mlz> i put my .bitcoin in /home/mlz/.bitcoin
12:09 < mlz> try that
12:09 < mlz> and i put my .lightning in /home/mlz/.lightning
12:09 < mlz> try that
12:09 < mlz> make your life simple and stop throwing your temper around here
12:10 < cluelessperson> mlz: I'm not reconfiguring my server incorrectly
12:11 < cluelessperson> I adhere to conventions to keep my configurations organized and reliable.
12:12 < mlz> well you're such a geek, figure it out then
12:25 < cluelessperson> mlz: if it's not designed to use proper conventions, I may not be able to
12:28 < mlz> cluelessperson, it's fine, maybe LN isn't for you
12:28 < cluelessperson> mlz: no, it's not fine.  Conventions exist for a reason.
12:29 < mlz> no clue, and i don't care
12:29 < cluelessperson> mlz: My server has multiple drives used for storage.  Storage is a finite resource, and so must be managed.  Certain directories are used for storing data, others are used for configuration.
12:30 < cluelessperson> Some random program deciding to store its stuff in a random place is frustrating
12:31 < cluelessperson> mlz: I also run 3 or more instances of bitcoind.   mainnet on an NVME for fast disk IO, mainnet on SSD for general use, testnet, electrumxmainnet, electrumx on testnet
12:31 < cluelessperson> which one will lightningd connect to?
12:33 < cluelessperson> ---     
12:33 < cluelessperson> mlz: and believe me, I want to help, I'm just not ina position where I can
12:34 < mlz> nobody is asking you to help with anger
12:34 < cluelessperson> mlz: I'm not angry at you
12:34 < mlz> i put both bitcoind and lightind in home and they talk to each other
12:34 < mlz> so if you have some personal setup, you should know how to get them to talk to each other, how am i supposed to know?
12:35 < mlz> i'm not a linux user, and i can get the nodes run on linux, you should be better than me
12:35 < cluelessperson> mlz: I don't have some personal setup.  Bitcoind has an RPC, the convention is  username:password:IP:port
12:36 < cluelessperson> this is how pretty much everything works
12:40 < mlz> never heard of that "convention for bitcoind"
12:40 < mlz> you created it?
12:41 < cluelessperson> mlz: so databases and various services depending on each other has existed for a long time.  In databasing you typically create a database, a user/password, and configure the permissions to that database that user has.
12:41 < cluelessperson> mlz: Then, for like a website, like wordpress, you'd configure it to connect to the database at ip:port and use the username:password
12:42 < mlz> well do you know you don't need a user and pw you still can do rpc call for bitcoin
12:42 < mlz> calls* 
12:42 < cluelessperson> mlz: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/API_reference_(JSON-RPC)
12:42 < mlz> but this is offtopic for this channel
12:43 < cluelessperson> mlz: Ah, so then it'd probably be best to interface directly with bitcoin peers, and allow you to define which peers to connect to
12:43 -17WAAR9DF:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker closed pull request #1046: subd: handle stdin being closed (eg. --daemon). (master...pr-1016) https://git.io/vABMX
12:43 -7GHAB5LAD:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vA0lz
12:43 -7GHAB5LAD:#c-lightning- lightning/master eca55ce Rusty Russell: subd: handle stdin being closed (eg. --daemon)....
12:45 < cluelessperson> mlz: here's code I made in python to connect to electrumx and bitcoin nodes: https://hastebin.com/raw/amaquguraf
12:46 < mlz> cluelessperson, we're going offtopic, i'm not going to discuss this here
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12:50 < rotarydialer> Where can I find more info on a payment that I sent, that now is stated as 'pending' when I do > lightning-cli listpayments ?
12:51 < rotarydialer> also, when I try and do getroute I get: { "code" : -1, "message" : "Could not find a route" }
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13:14 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master d2265cd practicalswift: Make sure msatoshi and sender are not uninitialized when calling channel_add_htlc(...)
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13:36 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/vA0EX
13:36 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master 4cf274b Rusty Russell: lightningd/opening_control: routines to control openingd (move from peer_control.c)...
13:36 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master a83ff83 Rusty Russell: lightningd/connect_control: routines to control connecting (move from peer_control.c)...
13:36 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master 9176ee6 Rusty Russell: lightningd/closing_control: routines to control closingd (move from peer_control.c)...
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13:59 -githubby:#c-lightning- lightning/master 1192f16 Rusty Russell: lightningd: fix crash when htlc failed and source is onchain....
13:59 -githubby:#c-lightning- [lightning] cdecker opened pull request #1055: Add --no-listen option to disable listening for incoming connections (master...issue-1025) https://git.io/vA0g0
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14:23 < vogelito> what happens if I already have a channel open but I change my config file to rename my node, change my color, and restart lightningd?
14:28 < mlz> your channel will still be there
14:29 < vogelito> thanks @mlz - with the new name?
14:34 < grubles> can domains be specified instead of IP addresses
14:34 < grubles> in a URI
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17:59 < lightninmax> heyoooo
18:01 < lightninmax> got a node running. having a problem. have made a bunch of payments now it doesnt work and i got this:  { "code" : -1, "message" : "failed: INVALID 0 (WIRE_TEMPORARY_CHANNEL_FAILURE: Capacity exceeded)" }
18:01 < lightninmax> any ideas how to approach this problem?
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18:40 < dougsland> lightninmax, looks like: https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/956136818352648192
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22:16 < aj> test/test_state_coverage.c and hence "make protocol-diagrams" seems to be broken?
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