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02:27 < sword_smith> fiatjaf: I am using your webhook but not net your webserver (to receive HTTP calls for c-lightning). Sometimes when I call `pay` through the CLI, c-lightning hangs. How does your webserver deal with that?
02:44 < darosior> I just arrived in Berlin, is anyone going to the today's meetup ?
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02:50 < lxer> which one?
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02:57 < lxer> I mean, there are multiple iirc. I'll probably be at the cypherpunk meetup
03:04 < lxer> darosior, if you want to know how to get there, just go to Ostkreuz, walk down the bridge and turn right (5min walk) 
03:46 < darosior> Ahoy's one
04:15 < sword_smith> fiatjaf: I am asking because I have previously experienced failing payments, but now it ofcourse works -- when I want it to break :)
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06:43 < sword_smith> I was a bit surprised to see that I could pay my own invoice. Anyone want to share some insight on that?
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07:30 < willcl_ark> how to fix this error? using 0.7.3rc2:  tools/mockup.sh: line 11: syntax error near unexpected token `;;'
07:42 < rusty> willcl_ark: ?
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07:43 < rusty> Did you just type make?  What OS?
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11:44 < fiatjaf> sword_smith, I don't know if I understand your question
11:45 < fiatjaf> you're asking what happens if you call the sparko /rpc endpoint and the call hangs?
11:46 < fiatjaf> the http call will also hang for as much time as possible, I'm not sure if there's a limit specified by the http protocol or the Go http library
11:46 < fiatjaf> but it could be many minutes
11:47 < fiatjaf> waitinvoice and waitanyinvoice are good commands to test this "hang" ability
12:22 < sword_smith> fiatjaf: Yes. That was my question. Although I don't know how Sparko looks under the hood, so I don't know if it uses the CLI interface or some special plugin interface that I am not familiar with.
12:39 < fiatjaf> it uses the rpc interface, which is a linux socket file or whatever the name that has. the cli also uses that same thing.
12:41 < fiatjaf> you can talk to it yourself, it's a fun experiment. install socat, then call 'socat - UNIX-CONNECT:/home/user/.lightning/lightning-rpc', then write '{"method": "getinfo", "params": [], "id": "0"}'
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14:55 < sword_smith> fiatjaf: Thanks. I hope to be able to contribute to your plugins at some point but my golang skills are a bit rusty. I have been programming Perl and C# the last four years, only programmed a little Go at university.
14:56 < sword_smith> Any insights about what to do if it hangs, should I assume that the transaction will be completed if it does?
14:56 < fiatjaf> you can write plugins in these languages yourself.
14:57 < fiatjaf> I don't know, I've had many problems with 'pay' in the past and ended up writing 'waitpay'. then 'pay' changed a bit and now I don't know exactly how it works.
14:57 < fiatjaf> are you calling that as part of an automated service or just manually?
14:57 < sword_smith> The former: an automated service.
14:58 < fiatjaf> I don't recommend 'pay', then, I recommend 'waitpay' 8)
14:58 < fiatjaf> 'pay' will try many different routes and sometimes a payment attempt can hang for many hours before it succeeds or fails
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14:59 < fiatjaf> but the problem is that 'pay' may return an error and then you don't know if the payment was actually errored or if 'pay' continues trying in the background -- at least that was the behavior back then when it caused my service to lose funds
15:03 < sword_smith> Alright so waitpay is a plugin, and once I have that plugin the command becomes available through the Sparko server?
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15:17 < fiatjaf> yes, and through the command line
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