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02:06 < darosior> rusty: sorry for all those quirks with rpc_command ...
02:06 < darosior> MrHash: I'll check it out
02:22 < darosior> MrHash: if you are into processing notifications in case of failure, have you looked into https://lightning.readthedocs.io/PLUGINS.html#db-write for database backup ?
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03:13 < MrHash> darosior: i think that's a hook right? i'd say that's better for machine backup. the notification relay is for consumer application failure. if your app goes down and misses invoice payments then durable queuing solves that problem
03:13 < darosior> Yep that's a hook
03:14 < darosior> Ah ok
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03:50 < sword_smith> I understand that the biggest channels that can be opened are on 0.16 BTC. Is that a protocol standard or just a limit put into c-lightning?
03:55 < sword_smith> I couldn't find anything from a quick search in the RFC or in the c-lightning code.
04:11 < fiatjaf> sword_smith, https://ln.bigsun.xyz/channel/604442x960x0
04:17 < darosior> sword_smith: It's in the RFC
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04:23 < darosior> sword_smith: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/02-peer-protocol.md#requirements
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05:20 < m-schmoock> cdecker: turns out that in order to see remote channels when testing, you need some bitcoind.generate_block(). I am confused why a channel turns locally active without and gossip is only able to see a channel remotely when we generated some blocks. Ideas?  
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06:18 < m-schmoock> I updated the PR to show exactly this: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/3321
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06:45 <@cdecker> m-schmoock: the channel can be locally active once it reaches the agreed upon funding depth (that's negotiated between the pees and is usually 2 blocks), but in order for it to be valid from the PoV of other nodes in the network it needs 6 confirmations
06:45 <@cdecker> That's one of the gossip rules we agreed upon globally. Local active needs only the approval of the endpoints
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09:18 < m-schmoock> cdecker: thanks for the clarification, will close the test-PR
09:18 < m-schmoock> so whenever I do some gossip routing stuff I make sure to generate_block(6) before asking gossip to do anything
09:19 < m-schmoock> I was not aware of this behaviour
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11:53 < m-schmoock> the plugin tests now seem to work for me, will add testing for my plugins soon
11:54 < m-schmoock> how can I run them locally btw? running pytest manually wont start the regtest bitcoind dependencies (for me)
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12:08 <@cdecker> Hm, strange, is `bitcoind` in the $PATH?
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12:14 <@cdecker> You can also have line_graph or fundchannel generate the blocks btw (wait_for_announce=True) that way you don't need to remember how to generate blocks :-)
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14:23 < m-schmoock> i know, thats why I figured the fund_channel option was missing for pyln fund_channel ;)
14:23 < m-schmoock> aehm announce_channel was missing for fund_channel
14:24 < m-schmoock> yes, I have bitcoind in the path. how do you start plugin tests locally (exactly) just setting PYTHONPATH properly, or additional stuff?
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14:29 < m-schmoock> cdecker: now it seem to also work for me by just using plugin tests like this, don't know what was going on last time:  pytest -v drain/test_drain.py   
14:29 < m-schmoock> :D
14:31 < m-schmoock> I would just point out how to run plugin test locally and how tests need to be named and strucutured in the README.md . Other than that the PR is fine, love it
14:31 < m-schmoock> I already discovered a zero division in my plugin that was otherwise untested <3
14:32 < m-schmoock> gn
14:32 < m-schmoock> 8
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15:41 < rusty> darosior: all good, I have 20 minutes to prepare my talk now it's all working :)
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