--- Log opened Thu Feb 13 00:00:39 2020 00:01 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #c-lightning 00:04 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:12 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #c-lightning 00:15 < vasild> darosior: so far my investigation shows that upon reconnecting to lnd-09.LNBIG.com:9735 my clightning node sends channel_reestablish, but the other node only sends us pings, we don't reply to them and after 6 pings they close the tcp connection. Looks like the lnd node is violating https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blame/master/02-peer-protocol.md#L1158 because it does not send 00:15 < vasild> channel_reestablish or error packet. I wonder if there is anything I can do on my end to get this channel activated... 01:33 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #c-lightning 01:38 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bf497.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #c-lightning 01:55 < willcl_ark> are the arguments to the RPC all purely positional? i.e. can I use 'fundchannel' with a 'push_amt' without having to set all of: "[feerate announce] [minconf] [utxos] [push_msat]"? 01:58 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@ip-178-211.ists.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:59 < willcl_ark> Specifically, I am trying to add a `push_amt` and avoid having to enter the `utxos` parameter to do so 01:59 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@ip-178-211.ists.pl] has joined #c-lightning 02:03 < willcl_ark> Ah OK! it works if they are all named -- I guess it doens't appreciate a mix of named and positional 02:04 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:29 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #c-lightning 02:30 < rusty> willcl_ark: -k, or use of 'xx=y' form triggers named parameters in cli. 02:31 < rusty> Or, at a lower level, jsonrpc can take a dict instead of an array. 02:32 < willcl_ark> rusty: thanks! I am reading up on "The Set Builtin" now :) 02:43 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:31 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:22 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 05:41 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #c-lightning 05:50 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:44 -!- Amperture [~amp@65.79.129.113] has joined #c-lightning 06:45 -!- Amperture [~amp@65.79.129.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zkjjaoqsjfattawp] has left #c-lightning [] 06:47 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zkjjaoqsjfattawp] has joined #c-lightning 08:02 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 08:25 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.6] 08:40 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 08:56 -!- Kostenko [~Kostenko@2001:8a0:7293:1200:68f5:2150:4d47:f16f] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57 -!- rafalcpp_ is now known as rafalcpp 09:00 -!- cryptoso- [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 09:45 <@niftynei> zmnscpxj what is ECIES? 09:46 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49 -!- Kostenko [~Kostenko@2001:8a0:7293:1200:68f5:2150:4d47:f16f] has joined #c-lightning 10:23 <@niftynei> rusty: the PoDLE commitment requirement doesn't obviate that kind of an attack (attempt to open a channel, wait for the shared utxo to be spent elsewhere, attempt to open again) but it does raise the barrier to entry to do it (burn one utxo of your own for every ask) 10:24 <@niftynei> at least with PoDLE getting the information *costs* an attacker something (having their utxo added to the blacklist) 10:26 <@niftynei> re: rate-limiting blacklist additions, i don't have any brilliant ideas other than the total amount of *valid* blacklist any one node could possibly emit is a scalar times the number of utxos in the global utxo set, where that scalar is the number of 'NUMS' points that are allowable (i think 3 was suggested?) 10:27 <@niftynei> personally i lean towards only allowing 1 NUMS point (this is the second J point that the commitment uses) as that cuts down on the total amount of valid PoDLEs 10:29 <@niftynei> it does mean you wouldn't be able to dual fund a channel with that utxo if you errored an open after inputs have been exchanged; you'd still be able to open a channel with it but it'd be blacklisted, so no one sane would send you their utxo info 10:37 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 10:41 <@niftynei> hmm there is a griefing attack here by a malicious accepter where they could get the opener to error the open by sending the wrong count for their witness length, basically burning that opener's commitment proof but ... it's probably not a good idea to open a channel with a malicious peer anyway 10:43 <@niftynei> i mean there's nothing stopping a malicious accepter from blacklisting your PoDLE if they wanted to 10:43 <@niftynei> even without forcing you to error the open 10:55 -!- Victor_sueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #c-lightning 10:56 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:12 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:40 -!- vasild_ [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has 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