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00:31 < rusty> niftynei: we should point out in the rel notes that nodes which do not want the hassle of spontaneous unrequested payments should add 'disable-plugin=keysend' to their config!  I can imagine users trying to pay that way...
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11:38 < jb55> how do I test keysend? it doesn't look like you can call it from the cli?
12:37 < darosior> jb55: only receiving support is implemented for now
12:38 < jb55> darosior: ah k figured
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12:48 <@cdecker> There's a plugin that implements sending as well in `tests/plugins/keysend.py` (used for testing but works on the public network as well).
12:49 <@cdecker> Working on implementing the sending side in the C plugin now, but won't make it into 0.8.2 sadly
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14:21 < t0mix> is it possible to broadcast channel closing transaction, where all funds are still on my side (a.k.a. stealing)? reason is, server on other side was wiped out and I want to recover his funds.
14:21 < rusty> t0mix: we make that really hard to do, of course.
14:22 < t0mix> I was the one opening the channel, so in theory, there could be such transaction still saved somewhere.
14:22 < t0mix> rusty: and that is good!
14:22 < t0mix> :)
14:22 < t0mix> it's only 10k satoshi
14:23 < rusty> t0mix: there's a dev option to sign the current transaction, which we use for testing.  However, it won't do past transactions.  You're right we have enough data in theory to reconstruct it, hmm...
14:23 < t0mix> channel was used literally once, for single transaction. to transfer 10k satoshi to other side.
14:26 < rusty> It'd take me a few hours to create something, I think.  We
14:28 < t0mix> oh, no.. I'm not going to waste your time for 10k satoshi. most important question was answered, 'in theory it is possible' :"D I'll keep the channel open, in case bitcoin hits astronomical prices, we can get back to it "D
14:31 < rusty> We have a commandline "create a commitment transaction" tool, but it assumes you know both side's private keys (because it's for testing).  Could fix that up, then we just need to pull all the info out of the db, and of course, extract our own private keys.
14:36 < t0mix> I don't have other's side private key.. why would I saved it, what am I, thief? :'D (no, it didn't came to my mind to save it.. I tried to onboard a friend to lightning. which he liked very much, but was too hard for him :( )
14:37 < t0mix> on bright side, he still is enthusiastic about it :D
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16:56 <@niftynei> rusty: ack!
17:00  * rusty scrolls back to try to figure out what niftynei is acking...
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