--- Log opened Fri Jun 19 00:00:54 2020 00:38 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@x4d0d2635.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #c-lightning 00:42 -!- liberliver1 [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #c-lightning 00:43 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@x4d0d2635.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:43 -!- liberliver1 is now known as liberliver 00:45 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.166.220.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #c-lightning 00:49 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Client Quit] 01:08 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:09 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has joined #c-lightning 01:28 -!- afk11` [~afk11@gateway/tor-sasl/afk11] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:29 -!- afk11` [~afk11@gateway/tor-sasl/afk11] has joined #c-lightning 01:46 -!- jonatack [~jon@192.113.14.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #c-lightning 02:07 -!- jonatack [~jon@192.113.14.109.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:29 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.7.1] 02:36 -!- k3tan [~pi@unaffiliated/k3tan] has joined #c-lightning 02:53 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-txhnryyccoeyadae] has left #c-lightning [] 02:53 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-txhnryyccoeyadae] has joined #c-lightning 03:04 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #c-lightning 05:07 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has joined #c-lightning 06:38 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 10:33 < devrandom> it seems like the proxy may have different strategies depending on the particular signer use case. for example, in an enterprise situation, the HSM may have plenty of resources and you also want to parallelize calls. In the case of a consumer hardware wallet, the secure element may have little resources and high throughput is not a goal. 10:33 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:35 < devrandom> back to the enterprise use case, if you are doing threshold signatures with servers in several data centers, that could easily take 10ms or longer. if you don't parallelize you'll be limited to 100 ops/s. 10:38 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #c-lightning 10:38 < devrandom> so it seems like the dev that is designing the signer adapter (hsmd replacement) should also have the option to replace the proxy. so the question remains if you want to have a reference implementation for the proxy (like you have for hsmd), or do you just give the signer developer some general architecture hints and let them implement it themselves? 10:39 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has joined #c-lightning 10:43 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 11:00 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@xdsl-188-154-186-21.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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