--- Log opened Wed Jul 29 00:00:09 2020 --- Day changed Wed Jul 29 2020 00:00 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:00 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 01:44 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:47 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 01:48 -!- vincenzopalazzo [~vincent@host-87-20-89-251.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #c-lightning 02:00 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:04 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #c-lightning 02:09 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:24 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-xadswhvwruqyrqgr] has left #c-lightning [] 02:24 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-xadswhvwruqyrqgr] has joined #c-lightning 03:13 < darosior> No 03:18 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:36 < zmnscpxj_> ok. not documented that we do not 03:44 -!- zmnscpxj_ [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:45 -!- jonatack [~jon@2a01:e0a:53c:a200:bb54:3be5:c3d0:9ce5] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:53 < darosior> It won't work (at least it *should not* see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18766) as we need fee estimation to startup 03:58 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #c-lightning 04:20 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:26 -!- jonatack [~jon@194.187.251.115] has joined #c-lightning 05:18 -!- jonatack [~jon@194.187.251.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:02 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:08 -!- csknk [~csknk@unaffiliated/csknk] has joined #c-lightning 06:18 -!- sr_gi 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vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:33 < nothingmuch> what recourse is there if i accidentally a fundchannel_complete with the wrong txid? 15:01 <@niftynei> well it's used as the input to the commitment tx 15:02 <@niftynei> so your commitment txs are un-spendable because the input is invalid 15:03 <@niftynei> do you know who owns the peer that you fubar'd with? 15:04 <@niftynei> hypothetically speaking, the only way to get your money out is to get a correctly signed commitment tx from that peer. but afaik there's no way to do that programmatically etc 15:05 <@niftynei> in theory you just need to convince that node operator to 1) figure out the key-pair that you locked your funds to and 2) convince them to sign a tx that returns the coins to you 15:06 < nothingmuch> FWIW it's still in the AWAITING state, and unconfirmed, that doesn't change anything right? 15:06 <@niftynei> nope changes nothing 15:06 <@niftynei> it won't ever be locked in 15:06 <@niftynei> because your peer's waiting for a non-existant transaction to be 6-blocks deep 15:06 < nothingmuch> *nod* 15:07 < nothingmuch> sfml ;-) 15:07 <@niftynei> did you .. .broadcast the tx? 15:07 <@niftynei> if you haven't broadcast the tx yet you're totally fine 15:07 <@niftynei> i don't think the channel will close, but you can disconnect and force-forget it then retry 15:08 < nothingmuch> i had yet another idiot moment, where i didn't realize it was not supposed to bcast, i was using another wallet to fund to get more timely confirmation 15:08 < nothingmuch> of course had i thought it through i would have realized there's no backout tx in that case given the txid is required... 15:08 < nothingmuch> i need to not play around with LN when already tired ;_; 15:08 < nothingmuch> it was not a large amount thankfully 15:08 <@niftynei> umm. yeah you're really not supposed to broadcast that tx until AFTER tx_complete is done (which maybe you did?) 15:09 < nothingmuch> yes, i used a wallet that doesn't actually let me save the tx unbroadcast 15:09 <@niftynei> :s/tx_complete/fundchannel_complete/ 15:09 <@niftynei> x( 15:09 < nothingmuch> had i stopped to think for a moment i would have realized what i was doing... 15:10 <@niftynei> the good news (?) is that we're moving away from providing txid via command line for the multi-fund/external wallet fund 15:10 <@niftynei> and heading to PSBTs 15:10 < nothingmuch> pathological curiousity, "hmm, i already used fundchannel, i wonder what i can learn if i use the low level API" 15:10 < nothingmuch> i learned to not do that ;-) 15:10 <@niftynei> with great power, comes great responsibility lol 15:11 < nothingmuch> paying for lessons is not the end of the world, but i'll try and figure things out w/ peer 15:13 <@niftynei> eh, that API was a mistake 15:13 < nothingmuch> this is nobody else's responsibility but my own 15:13 < nothingmuch> but yes, it could be a bit less confusing 15:13 <@niftynei> the better option would be to have forced you to provide the tx and then have figured out the txid + output number 15:14 < nothingmuch> yeah that makes sense 15:14 <@niftynei> via script comparison. much less room for user error 15:14 <@niftynei> hindsight is 2020 so i hear 15:14 < nothingmuch> but i mean, my mistake was before that, not thinking through the consequences of using that wallet, i was worried about other details (will the amount value be precise, etc) 15:15 < nothingmuch> i had electrum's interface in mind, where you can sign and broadcast in two steps 15:16 -!- vincenzopalazzo [~vincent@host-95-246-119-127.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:56 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 17:06 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #c-lightning 17:30 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has joined #c-lightning 17:35 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@208.59.170.5] has quit [Ping 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